Judge Stan Strickland’s Background

I assumed the defense’s next move would be to try and yank him off the case (well they’ve asked for stupider things and they just might try it) … but good luck with that. Honored by the CFACDL! Oh the irony.

Thanks for this, Val.

I am glad you did this on the Judge. I always thought that the next move for the defense would be to try to pick on him, I am so glad that he is known for being fair. I think that they will try to say that he won’t be fair to Casey. Maybe if he is that known for being fair then they should stay in his court. So far to date the only thing negative that he has said is that Ms Anthony and the truth are strangers. And boy don’t we all know that is a true statement.

I don’t think that they are going to find anyone anywhere that thinks its okay to harm a two year old precious baby. IMO that is what they seem to be looking for.

Thanks Valhall and Jomo! I had read good things about Judge Strickland but not like this … wow … guess the defense can’t do much better than him, he seems at the top of the heap!

Nice article!!!

He’s no Ito that’s for sure. Another great post! Thanks!

I feel very confident that Judge Strickland will follow the law very carefully, as he has always done. The stars are all in alignment, Caylee will get her justice, her death will not be for nothing.

What a wonderfully written article! I love the way you put it together. It is really clear that the defense is lucky to have him on the bench for their case.

When I saw the YouTube video of the bail hearing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt2v6RfG9WI

Judge Strickland’s comments about there being “substantial evidence” and that Casey and the truth were obviously strangers, I wondered who he was and what his background was.

Thanks for such a great article

Just an FYI, I am trying to find out more specifics on Judge Strickland’s science background. I plan to update the post on him and bump it if I’m able to obtain more info.

thank you your honor for being fair to caylee, she will get her justice . i wish grama cindy would smell the coffee to see what a monster her daughter is, no one else put caylee in the back of the trunk casey did!! she didnt want to be a mother, she didnt want cindy to have her neather. so she took her baby life and nothing going to make me believe she didnt do it, ( but i wonder if the whole family in on it in some point they knew casey harmed her daughter so they no hiding the truth lied to the police change the story, to dead body to pizza right george? he knew it was caylee he tried to kill him self over it the smell of death isnt pretty, he knew it was her , cindy washing the pants to take the evdence away from casey stupid move cindy,,,,

Jomo,

No, thank you! Great work on pulling together sources.

After learning of Judge Strickland’s high standards of ethics and fairness, I now view the almost certain change of venue as risky. Who knows if they will get such an even-handed judge when they move.

Val

I’m not sure that a change of venue means a change of the judge. I think it doesn’t.
I was wondering, maybe Silver will chime in, is it possible to get jurors from where ever the COV is and house them in a hotel in Orlando vs the state paying to bring all the witnesses to the new location? I’m not sure if that would demonstrate savings or not.

Thanks for this article. I think Strickland strives to be fair. I like him.

WSH, I was thinking the same thing, bring the jurors in from a different town and put them up in a hotel.
That would make more sense.
Also if the trial would be held in, say Miami, they would have to bring Casey there, and put her in jail there.

Baez and Co have some nerve to ask for a change, they are the ones on every tv show and giving “news conferences” after every court hearing.

Thanks Val for an other great article.

Thanks, Val, for nother great article.

I’ve always liked Strickland for his demeanor as well as his obvious intellegence.

I hope I shall never have to appear in court, but if that should ever happen, I would pray for a judge like Strickland.

I am almost certain that there will not be a change of venue. It is a matter of logistics and economics. As Richard Hornsby so clearly pointed out, the witness lists are much too long locally that more than likely the jury from a differnt area will be brought in for the trial. It is almost impossible to expect more than a hundred witness to relocate for the trial, even for just a few days.

I only hope that Judge Strickland will remain the presiding judge.

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/12/20/will-the-real-zenaida-gonzalez-please-stand-up/

Hey Valhall…Richard Hornsby just disproved the “Annie Downing/Casey Anthony/Zenaida Gonzalez traffic ticket CONSPIRACY” …

ivoire

Ivoire,

This is OT to this thread, but – no, he hasn’t.

Hey Val…
Oops , sorry about that..If you want to move the link please do..I only perused the article ( and was exhausted… Also, excellent article on Judge Strickland..All I can say is thank heavens we did not get the other one ( or someone like that Anna Nicole Smith Judge; the FWW of Judges!)….Merry x-mas, happy festivus, merry kwanza, happy hannuka to all… ivoire

No worries, ivoire, you can read my comments about this issue on the thread located here:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=267&cpage=2#comment-2977

I would certainly hope that if this Judge Strickland FORCES us tax payers to Pay for Casey Anthony’s case because she is “indegent” that he would not allow her current team Jose Baez and that other lady continue to serve her. It would be to the best of his interest to force Casey to take the public defender, that is what would happen to anyone else who is considered “indegent’ we would be forced to have a public defender over our case. Also any and all book or movie rights proceeds SHOULD go back to the tax payers. :!:

I am sad to say the defense has probably succeeded in getting JSS off the bench. I think he will recuse himself from the case. All I have to say for the defense is…be careful what you wish for.

Banana,

I agree with everything you said.

Val,

Morning and thanks for honoring JS, he certainly didn’t deserve this stupid move of the defense. I am saddened by this. It just shows of what the defense is capable of. We have to remember this same defense threw mud at Mr. kronk and all they had was ex bitter wives statements. Shame on the defense!!!

I soooo hope you guys are wrong about Strickland stepping down, I read a report generated by defense attorneys and he rated the highest, not because he rules in the favor alot, but because he’s fair and knows the law like no body’s business he considers the arguments carefully and so on.

I hate to his his record tarnished over this allegation.

Please Val, be wrong this one time, K? I’ll give ya a big ole if you are!

One day in the future, if Casey Anthony thinks she did not get a fair trial and there are appeals made due to this, it is my opinion that her main complaints will be about her own defense team and how they defended her rather than who sat as judge over the proceedings. She already has the best judge she could possibly have and I think the defense is just making one more mistake in how they attempt to defend her.
The public, in general, might not know of the excellent record of Judge Strickland…but the legal community does and this attack on JS will not be forgotten. (I call it an attack because I don’t believe for a minute that JB or Mason feel JS will not be fair and impartial…rather, this move is personal, IMO…or, at least, will appear to be so.) Mason is soon to walk away from his career but JB is only just beginning his own after already having a bit of a bad start. I think JB would do better to practice down in Miami after this. A fair trial was already assured IMO and you don’t further your career by being the first one to place a black cloud of “conspiracy” over the exemplary and commendable career of someone like Judge Strickland.
Can’t you just hear JB in the future; at some legal local function, saying,
“It wasn’t MY idea…it was MASON’S!”
Thank-you Val and Jomo, for making this information available at this time.

If Judge Strickland has such an impeccable record on the bench then he should “buck” up to these defense accusations and defend himself and not step down regardless of how it appears. My former husband was an attorney and have two sons that are in the profession, and I have known more than one circuit judge in the state of AL. Sorry Val, you can put up the posts on his background and his record but Judge Strickland should never have had ANY HINT of impropriety while he is presiding over a case certainly not in this death penalty case that is getting so much publicity. IF he had such a lapse of judgment there is a real problem here. I am sorry this has happened. I have been so favorably impressed with JS. I might have expected such from a judge in a rural county in Alabama, but not Florida. I am looking forward to JS SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT!

I also know that local attorneys know these circuit judges well and how they preside and rule. You can bet JB and team are looking at some particular judge they want on this case that will further their cause. You can also put this in your pipe and smoke it JB has messed in his own nest! If Judge Strickland remains on the bench in this county and JB comes before him on other cases – Katie bar the door!

PS: Different ending to same sentence beginning is also needed here:
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The public, in general, might not know of the excellent record of Judge Strickland…but THEY SOON WILL, thanks to people like Val and Jomo who are making it public.
Judge Strickland’s good career will go on long after Casey Anthony is forever sitting in a jail cell, chin held high and rearranging her hair endlessly.

There are cases in this country where the innocent are rounded up and hauled in because they are considered marginal and expendable in this society:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-07-31/news/tulia-blues/1
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/localnews/columnists/jragland/stories/031409dnmetragland.33ada80.html
http://www.americanviolet.com/
http://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform/aclu-charges-racial-discrimination-second-texas-drug-bust-scandal

Some of those people are innocent and accept plea deals because they feel they have no options. They are railroaded. When a horrific miscarriage of justice occurs, like this, I am infuriated, and want people in power to be exposed, I want their improprieties and criminal acts exposed, because I want justice, fairness and truth.

Then I contrast this situation with the Casey Anthony case and it is appalling that there are innocent people who are wrung out to dry. Various people have been investigated, not because there was ever any real notion that they were involved in the death of Caylee Anthony, but because they might be useful in creating reasonable doubt and a diversion from the devastating facts that damaging to Casey Anthony’s case.

Although not all the facts have surfaced regarding the interplay of “Marinade Dave”
and Judge Strickland, on the surface it appears that there may have been a lapse of judgment, (that in reality has no impact on the judge’s fair decision making capacity). Clearly, the judge has demonstrated measured responses, and has gone out of his way not to embarrass the defense, by writing rulings, rather than making them face the music in court for so many badly written motions without appropriate case law examples. He has shown unbelievable tolerance for long winded whining. He hasn’t displayed any characteristics of an underhanded individual looking to personally benefit from the case, nor has he exhibited any particular bias against Casey Anthony. When he stated that “the truth and Miss Anthony are strangers”, this analysis was based on admissions from the defendant near the time of the hearing. There was a missing child, and Casey Anthony was lying to investigators. Subsequently, the parents admitted on TV that Casey Anthony lies/lied. Eventually, the defense, itself, will cop to the lying when it is advantageous to their cause. But I digress.

Although I can not say it matters not what the judge’s actions were, as Silver eloquently explained, we can not have the appearance of partiality, it is a sad day
when, either because of vengeance, ego or tactical desperation, the defense is willing to pull down an individual with a documented exemplary history (and who has especially granted them an abundance of leeway) . Is this how early lawmakers envisioned how the justice system would operate? Damage everyone within 5 feet of the defendant? Casey Anthony wasn’t rounded up and arrested on a “whim” like Regina Kelly. She never reported her daughter missing, lied to investigators, and well, you know the rest.

The saddest part about this story, aside from the collateral damage of the peripheral and direct players in this case, is the cynicism that it will cultivate and encourage in the minds of everyday people who will be seated as jurors for someone like Regina Kelly. They will be less likely to trust the assertions of unfairness by defense attorneys who are representing the innocent and down trodden. I feel it hurts everyone.

And to what end? The defense may have bitten its on nose to spite its face. But I guess Cheney Mason is having fun.

Val,

Love your site, but have never posted before. I think if they are asking Judge Strickland to step down it is so that they can get another judge who might make a ruling that they can use for an appeal for a new trial later. He obviously has done everything to ensure that this would not happen in his court. Although i suppose if he doesn’t step down they will use that later too.

Let’s compare Judge Strickland’s record to that of Mr. Baez shall we ?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-05-03/news/jose_1_baez-casey-anthony-florida-bar

n 1997, Baez was a student at a lowly law school (St. Thomas, ranked 182nd in field of 185 US law schools).

He then took 8 YEARS to pass the bar exam (in 2005).

NO bona fide trial experience looking back to 1997. Jose tried to pass off his 1997 STUDENT work experience as legitimate PROFESSIONAL experience on his website in 2008, and has removed it 2009. Such misrepresentation is grounds for disbarment in Florida.

For eight years after Jose B. graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other “financial irresponsibility” up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.

His overall behavior, they wrote, showed “a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law.”

(that in reality has no impact on the judge’s fair decision making capacity decision)

Val

When you have the chance aside from real life, would you please take out the last “decision”? It was an editing error, it should read:

(that in reality has no impact on the judge’s fair decision making capacity )

There are probably many more mistakes, but I’m going to do other life things too.

Yep, you can bet your boots that JB and company have a Judge in mind…one that they can buy off. Anyone else feel like that.

ABSOLUTELY Phyllis! You can bet too that Cheney Mason is behind this. NO WAY JB has the b—- to do this. He has to practice in this jurisdiction for the rest of his career. As you can see, I am in a “twit” about this. Just when I think the case is on track and we can get to trial and PROSECUTE THIS KILLER, something foolish happens like this.

One more thing:

Today I am in a completely different mindset. I believe that for the people of Florida, the judge should NOT recuse himself. This will put an additional burden on the taxpayers of the state. It should go to a higher impartial court to decide if he should remain, if that must be the case. That court can determine what is in the best interest for the defendant and the people. Then everyone will have to live with that decision.

The defense has lost what little mind they have left. Judge Stan is a wonderful judge. Casey and her team make me so mad sometimes. I hope they get a real ball buster Judge. Did I read somewhere that Judge Stan was blogging? I don’t believe it.

I am completely depressed about this. What a HUGE PRICE to pay for someone’s over-inflated ego. Bloggers were critical when MD boasted of his bonding with the Judge. Even not knowing the law we all felt squirmy about it, but he and his posse countered with “Oh, they’re just so jealous. No journalist is finer than our MD. Look, even the Judge wants to be friends with him.” . . . and so their refrain goes, month after month as they continue to hurl terrible names at bloggers who were not pro-Baez or pro-Anthony.

And in the past few weeks how many times has he teased readers about the shared lunch with the gang? “Something special” was going to be revealed in his blog as soon as he finished writing about it. Well, now we know what “something special” was. And he’s likely deleted all references to it by now. How many times have we read scathing remarks only to see them deleted a day or so later? What do you think he’s been doing since yesterday?

Like Linda, I’m mad that Strickland felt he could be friendly with the moderator of a blog that routinely calls bloggers fecal matter, farts, sewage etc. Why didn’t Strickland know? If he reads the blog there’s no way he CAN’T know. And If he’d read it in the past few weeks he would have also been aware of the very disturbing illegal activity recently conducted there. If he didn’t know the blog then he really had no business putting this capital case in such jeopardy by speaking so casually to MD.

Aaaarrrrgggghhhh! Do you think there’s ANY way out of this without Strickland having to recluse himself? Please somebody say, yes. I’m just sick about it. It’s too much, just too much. It’s a dark day for Caylee.

» Bees Knees said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 10:04:58 }

@Bees Knees – we have no way of knowing if JS has read MD’S blog after October 2009. As a matter of fact we have no way of knowing what, if any , blogs JS reads at all. I think he read some blogs due to a Motion filed by defense in Oct 2009. I do agree with you regarding the worrisome stuff that happens on that blog and others.

All I can say at this point is…if you’re a public official of the highest standing and
want to shoot yourself down with a big ugly public scandal, there’s got to be
at least a million and one far more enjoyable ways in this world to do it
than Marinade Dave.

» Monica said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 11:04:58 }
All I can say at this point is…if you’re a public official of the highest standing and
want to shoot yourself down with a big ugly public scandal, there’s got to be
at least a million and one far more enjoyable ways in this world to do it
than Marinade Dave.

Funny and true.

I’m with you, Bees Gees, Somebody please say that JS can find a way to keep from recusing himself in this case. I know the answer before I finished the last sentence – No! It is not about the expense to the state. It is all about fair trial for THE MURDERER and the appearances of bias. We all know what the defense is up to, and we all know whatever JS did or not has nothing to do with his ability to interpret the law in this case. JS, as far as I know, can refuse to recuse himself, but unless this is ALL fabricated, he will not. I could just shake the judge-what was he thinking?

If JS recuses himself I don’t think his reputation will take a hit. If he does it he’ll do it in the gentlemanly way he always conducts himself. He will walk out proud and maintain his dignity.

This is a piffle and he and his peers will know that his good work will be untarnished.

Just because an asinine defense motion might reap results doesn’t mean the target will be demonized. JS will do it (if he does it) for the better good and he will come out of this smelling like a rose.

That’s how I feel.

Jennyb

I believe now that he shouldn’t recuse himself because of the “bullying”. I don’t see that it is in the best interest of Casey Anthony; who may end up with a more hard lined judge, so this is a tremendous gamble for her, and on the other side, it does nothing to help the people of Florida ( the taxpayers) who would want a fair balance of justice without unnecessary additional costs in this case. I think a higher court should decide. It may end up where Strickland remains and the proceedings can move forward. If not, then move on from there.

I think there’s 2 sides to every story. We all heard Judge Strickland say to the Bailiff, “I think I know him” and had him call Dave to the bench. Dave then posted an alleged conversation between himself and the judge. A conversation that portrayed Dave as a shining example of unbiased journalism. Way to go Dave. One of Dave’s readers wrote a poem about this interaction and proclamations of kudos from the judge which is still on his site. All of Judge Strickland’s alleged comments to Dave are hearsay. The phone call being INITIATED by the Honorable Judge Strickland to Dave enquiring about his health is hearsay. I agree that his comment about the IHOP with all of the defense team and the prosecutors and the judge was a joke but if you read the comment from JBMission you’ll see she believed it. Interesting handle from a self proclaimed casey is innocent. Kronk is guilty poster.

We know that Dave gave his card to Brad Conway and Jose Baez (seen on camera) and who knows who else. He willingly agreed to give an unsworn statement to the defense PI. Who’s interviewing who here? Dave should have been asking the questions if he was trying to get a “story”. I don’t think Dave was purposely trying to play right into the hands of the defense but he surely did just that. At Judge Stricklands expense. Very sad.

I am appalled by all of the players in this debacle. An innocent 2 year old child is dead and she deserves justice.Tthat’s the bottom line. The rest of this sh!t is just that, sh!t.

STAN IS THE MAN……………..JOSE IS THE BURNT TACO NOW……….

I can tell you from personal experience that the circuit courts read blogs. In January of this year I was blogging at a certain news station in Orlando when a news story broke about a judge who let a scumbag out of jail (arrested for domestic violence) who then finished the job of killing his wife/girlfriend. Well I had to put my 2 cents in. This isn’t verbatim but it’s pretty darn close to what I wrote……..This judge needs to be slapped with some common sense. It doesn’t take a genius to see that this guy is a danger to society. Within 2 hours of posting that comment I received an email my membership had been disabled and if I had any questions to contact them through the email link they sent me. I tried emailing with the link they sent me because I had no idea why my membership was disabled. I had posted several comments that day, I didn’t think I had broken any rules. Well the email link was bogus, so I had to call the news station. Come to find out the 18th judicial circuit court contacted the news station and demanded that I be reprimanded for threatening a judge. My thoughts holy sh*t My comment was a cupcake compared to others, but I took my spanking got reinstated and promised not to be naughty girl. Moral lesson, people read what you write about them. It would be hard not too! and For goodness sakes be careful what you write about judges, you don’t want them to get their panties in a wad!

P.S.
My intention was to never threaten a judge,, he took my comment literally.. I upset by his decision re:that case, which ended the life of a beautiful woman. I stated my opinion and received a smack down for it.

WSH -

If he goes I don’t think it’ll be because of the bullying. I agree that he can probably stay with nary a ripple of effect in the long run. So much has gone on in this case and more to come — so this could soon be placed in a file drawer with all the other hysteria-ridden nutty weekend bombshells that fade very quickly.

Like I said, if he goes it’ll be because he’ll feel it’s for the higher good and I think he’ll do it with class. I really like this judge and if the defense thinks they can do better I say… bring. it. on.

The motion is seeking to “disqualify” the judge in this case. Quite a bit of difference than asking a judge to recuse himself. After reading the motion, there is no way JS will stay on this case. Did you notice who the defense’s “investigator” was – a relative of AL! If this is not an indication that Cheney Mason is tough then you don’t know the definition of tough. At the risk of repeating myself here, I simply cannot believe that Judge Strickland would do such a thing!!

I believe that Val is right- Judge Strickland will recuse himself. Like all of you, I believe that the motion is ridiculous and will ultimately come back to bite the defense. However, what troubles me most is that if/when Strickland recuses himself, it opens the door for the defense to continue stalling ad infinitum. Every ruling they didn’t like will be appealed under the “the old judge was biased” line… maybe they will wait until after Casey is convicted and use this incident (if you want to call it that) as grounds for their appeal. Someone said this is a dark say for Caylee and I agree. There is no honor or pursuit of justice amongst the defense. Casey is a cancer that infects everyone she comes in contact with. My only hope is that the new judge rules is fair but makes it perfectly clear that he won’t suffer fools like his predecessor.

» Linda Pope said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 11:04:40 }
The motion is seeking to “disqualify” the judge in this case. Quite a bit of difference than asking a judge to recuse himself. After reading the motion, there is no way JS will stay on this case. Did you notice who the defense’s “investigator” was – a relative of AL! If this is not an indication that Cheney Mason is tough then you don’t know the definition of tough. At the risk of repeating myself here, I simply cannot believe that Judge Strickland would do such a thing!!

So they are specifically asking for a higher court order, in other words?

We still do not know all the facts in regard to what was actually said between parties.
I think perhaps he should remain and be ordered off of the bench for this trial. Foolishness, perhaps on his part, but we don’t know all. It is a bit sickening that lawyers want to pick and choose judges.

Repeat! Nice article!!!

WSH, maybe, but is the S on Lyons a typo? Could be, if Cheney Mason dictated the motion as he called Andrea, Ms. Lyons with an ’s’ even after she introduced herself clearly in the indigency hearing as she was about to be questioned. I think in a past document or press release, the spelling was the same as Ms. Lyon spells her name.

Thank you Jomo and Valhall. There was a video that used the text over audio of one of Judge Strickland’s Casey hearing statements– that was about his views on the first amendment. The defense wouldn’t want ‘a first amendment guy’ (using a Mitnik quote here about himself) because there’s a lot they want excluded from public record, they want attorney visits cameras ‘off’ completely, they want the video from the jail destroyed including Casey’s reaction on December 12, including family visits, and then there’s the audio calls. That’s before any hearings on evidence admittance.

Marinade Dave should have properly kept his mouth shut, and his pen in his pocket instead of advertising his call to say hello to the judge.

AND, they want TES records exposed so they can dig and find dirt on each and every person, do a Kronk on every one possible.

Kleat

The “Lyons” was a PI, not Andrea, the attorney.

WSH, yes, I know that, but ages ago, when the ex-wives of Kronk came out, PI Lyon (I thought without an ’s’ was listed with PI Mort Smith on a document.

If it is Jeremiah Lyons with an ’s’, then it’s not likely he’s related to Andrea. (remember Andrea’s sister was the filmmaker who made a documentary about the media and capital cases, juries and how media can manipulate how a jury thinks before it’s ever selected).

If the ’s’ is a typo, then the two could be related. Mason already said the ’s’ in his name for the court record, he could easily say it again in a dictated motion.

Q is, is Jeremiah related to Andrea as the filmmaker is? How does he really spell his name?

Has the defense done its homework to see who, in the list of judges, is available for a case like this? If it’s a judge that is not a ‘first amendment guy’, the defense will be in a much better position to have jail videos, including the infamous Aug 14th visit with parents, destroyed, and the other damaging materials, and maybe they can even get the jail to stop video camera operations when they visit.

Interesting Poll from Orlando Sentinel
Poll: Should the judge in the Casey Anthony case be disqualified?
Casey Anthony’s defense attorneys say Judge Stan Strickland should be disqualified because of his comments to a blogger. Do you agree?

Yes. The judge has shown he is not impartial. (28 responses)

7%

No. The judge has not done anything wrong. (305 responses)

77%

Not sure. I would like to learn more about the issue. (62 responses)

16%

395 total responses

(Results not scientific)

» Kleat said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 12:04:43 }

@Kleat, too late to have jail videos already released destroyed, that bell has been rung. As for any new visits or visits with attorneys, can’t see them getting away with a favorable ruling.

5Emerald,

Now THAT’S the kind of judge this defense is looking for, one who selects how he interprets the 1st Amendment to the Constitution of the US of A.

Gracie, but will they be able to argue later, in another motion should this judge be replaced, that his decisions were based on bias, and that there should be a second opinion allowed and if granted, have a superior court review the motions (not that I know how this would work, but as a ‘for instance’? Why not ask, they can only be told no.

The defense might go for a review of all the decisions that might then fall under the ‘biased’ timeline. If successful, that would be something added to Judge Strickland’s record as not only the impression of being biased, but court rules to support that as an ‘action’.

(I’m no legal person, but the defense has asked for a opinion review before, was denied, but if it succeeded, a supreme court would have been able to make a new ruling)

» Kleat said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 12:04:23 }

@Kleat, don’t ask don’t get, you are right in that regard. However, I one would think that JS made his rulings based on law already established as far as the video’s of visits. Not sure when the sunshine law was established in Florida but 5 will get you 10 that it’s probably been challenged in other cases already. Given Ms. Anthony and the defense teams propensity to ignore the rules, damn the torpedeo’s behaviour can’t see them winning that one.

Kleat said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 12:04:44 }

I wonder, under this scenario, if the defense could pick and choose which motions they want reviewed. I would think it’s the baby and the bathwater. Wouldn’t it be ironic if another judge or higher court actually let Judge S’s rulings against the defense motions stand and ALSO reversed some of JS’s more lenient judgements? Because he HAS bent over backwards to be fair.

To any comment by the judge about timing of the trial and his re-election. That implies one thing, but could mean another. This is not a 5 day trial, there is not start date set in stone, it’s set, but delays are still possible. Does it make sense to have a trial start then oops, the judge is gone? It seems the comment was just regarding the scheduling and ‘common sense’.

This is a legal question:…

In Florda there is a case where a wealthy desperate housewife ‘”faux-ed” her own “kidnapping ” with her serbian lover …..Oops, the plan didn’t work out..Hence, both of them were charged etc…

The female judge , who knew the woman socially (and in fact , their children go to school together and play together) was asked to recuse herself….The judge declined—and is still presiding over the case currently?!….

That being stated, both are criminal cases ( and of course Casey’s case is a capital case) so what exactly is the threshold to remove a judge in a criminal case?

thanks ivoire

And who selects the next judge? Will those who have a say, now err on the side of caution and chose one that would tend to give the defense even more ‘fairness’ by allowing motions that most judges would not? Err wayyy to the side of caution so they don’t have to recuse that judge too?

Cindy said so early on, she didn’t like the ‘hard-ass’ judge, his bond amount was all wrong according to her and her attorney friends. They need to help Casey by having this judge gone.

I don’t see how they can prove that his decisions are motivated by media opinion. First off, MD’s blog is not media in the traditional sense. Strickland is not going to get reelected in FL based on the positive coverage by MD. Most people in FL likely do not know who he is. He is not a writer at the Wall Street Journal, the Orlando Sentinel or The New York Times, so I can’t see how it would be so beneficial to keep things going with Dave if his motivation was to curry favor with the public through “media”. Let’s be real about that. Secondly, the PI called MD a “journalist”. He is a blogger, not a journalist.

@Kleat, don’t think the defense or the prosecution get a say in who the next (if any) judge will be. I believe that is up to the court.

The biggie is, the defense WANTS TES records to go fishing with. Find someone somewhere they can accuse, put on the stand, get him or her to lie, show character flaws or more, and suggest that they lied about not being in those woods, etc and have ONE juror believe them. The TES issue is not about mitigation, it’s about conviction or innocent. Innocent means innocent of manslaughter too.

Great Horny Hinky Toads, This F*cking Case!!!! Everytime I ask can it get stranger & weirder & Shazzam, it does.

» Valhall said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 12:04:16 }
Ivoire – LMAO!

Could you please take your medicine and try that again, maybe?

_____________________________________________________________________

Oh and I forgot to add S-E-R-E-N-I-T-Y N-O-W !!!

LMAO and xxx

ivoire
ivoire

So, basically, Dave violated Florida statute when he divulged the contents of these communications without first obtaining approval from Judge Strickland.

In Florida, generally all parties must consent to the recording or the disclosure of the contents of any wire, oral or electronic communication. This means phone calls! Recording, disclosing, or endeavoring to disclose without the consent of all parties is a felony, unless the interception is a first offense committed without any illegal purpose, and not for commercial gain. Florida Statute section 934.03.

Under the statute, consent is not required for the taping of a non-electronic communication uttered by a person who does not have a “reasonable expectation of privacy” in that communication. However, this oral communication must be one that is made in a setting in which a person does not have a “reasonable expectation of privacy.” There are various circumstances when a person may not have a reasonable expectation of privacy. See also Florida Statute section 934.02 for the definition of “oral communication.” See also Stevenson v. State, 667 So.2d 410 (Fla. DCA1996); Paredes v. State, 760 So.2d 167 (Fla. DCA 2000).

http://www.floridacriminallawblog.com/2009/05/recording_telephone_conversati.html

While one could argue Judge Strickland’s “reasonable expectation of privacy” in the conversation in the court room (and I believe lose that argument because Dave was called to a location other than in front of a mic or as part of an official proceeding), they definitely can’t argue the Judge’s “reasonable expectation of privacy” during the phone calls!

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0934/titl0934.htm

And please note these statutes cover ORAL transmission of private conversations as well as recordings of those conversations. So, this is not just a matter of bad form, it’s a legal issue as well.

I’m a member of a minority of 1, apparently, on this issue.

I found Judge Strickland’s singling out of MD troubling from the day it happened. Both the appearance of it, and Strickland’s opinion (per Dave), that MD’s blog was somehow more fair and balanced than others. Why, exactly, I wondered? I’ve never found a pro-defense or pro-G&C Anthony stance in this case to be fair or balanced, and not just because of my own opinion about them. Just seems to me anyone with eyes and the ability to think logically realizes just how out of bounds both the defense team and the victim’s family have been from day 31.

The Strickland/Dave meet-up after the hearing, as described by MD, bothered me on a number of levels, I guess the most obvious of which is that with all the internet action this Anthony nightmare has received, it would seem to me the first order of business for the judge in the case would be to actively ignore every blog, blogger, message board, forum, and all participants. I was absolutely stunned to learn about the SS/MD after-hearing chat, the beginning of which is on video for all to see and hear. I was also stunned to read yesterday that according to MD, the judge called him after a recent hospitalization to wish him well.

I admit to impatience with Judge Strickland during hearings. I find his very high tolerance for the defense team’s embarrassing, abysmal performance to date unnecessary. Unless he runs his trials differently from his hearings, I find the precedent he has set with regard to Baez’s unprofessional, adolescent, time-wasting behavior to bode not well at all for the upcoming trial. I also feel much more could be done to move this case along. Those are just my personal opinions and observations, which I feel compelled to share in the interest of full disclosure. MD issue aside, I’m not as big a fan of the judge as most are.

In any event, I find myself placing as much — and probably more — responsibility for this latest motion on the judge, since in my opinion, he simply should have known better than to befriend a local blogger, and worse yet, to opine about the “fairness” of the blog, surely with the knowledge the blogger would blog about it. If indeed that is what happened.

It’s all quite confusing to me, because the judge is cautious to a fault in his courtroom. This business with MD would seem to be completely out of character for Strickland.

Okay, I’ll shut up now.

Yeah, agree, Gracie, but the defense will know whose dockets are full, and who might have some space open. Playing the odds, and will the court err on the side of caution by assigning a judge who has a reputation of being less of a 1st A. guy… so they don’t have to fight this fight again.

It’s a gamble, but obviously the defense thinks taking a second stab at getting Strickland tossed and somewhat publicly and legally called ‘biased’, if they can swing that too, is worth the gamble to try once again.

Maybe they will go for more once this is settled, like reviews of the judge’s decisions so far.

Please, Jan, don’t shut up! I have not once stated that the judge didn’t play apart in this. I think he had a tremendously bad brain-fart or something that led to this lapse in personal judgment.

Now – many focus in on the phone call as something even more important. I totally disagree. The phone call was an act of kindness. It was Judge Strickland checking on Dave’s health. But the phone call taking place shows that the judge did continue to read Dave’s blog or he wouldn’t have known he was in the hospital.

» Kleat said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 01:04:53 }

Yeah, agree, Gracie, but the defense will know whose dockets are full, and who might have some space open.

@Kleat, watch the video along with this & listen to name of the Judge that Richard Hornsby mentions

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23182161/detail.html

Then go to this link
[LINK EDITED OUT BY VALHALL]

Val,

Hey … thanks!

I do find the rumored phone call almost more disturbing than the original conversation, I admit. For some reason I can’t quite put words to, it bothers me immensely to imagine the judge online, keeping up with Dave’s blog entries.

And the rumored phone call, for me, cements the existence of an inappropriate relationship.

Ack.

» gracie34 said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 01:04:04 } Comment is awaiting moderation.

» Kleat said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 01:04:53 }

Yeah, agree, Gracie, but the defense will know whose dockets are full, and who might have some space open.

@Kleat, watch the video along with this & listen to name of the Judge that Richard Hornsby mentions

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23182161/detail.html

@Kleat, the judge that Hornsby mentions was also written about by MD, he is the head of the 9th circuit court

Good points both Jan and Val.

I know what Strickland did was indeed a brain fart. I wouldn’t call myself a fan of his either, but based on his patience, history and what attorneys have said about him, I have to take it that he was fair. I don’t know what drew him to MD, but to each his own.

It just pisses me off that it is all a game, and on principle only, I’d like to see him stay on the case, because we know that the essence of the motion is insincere. I know legally it doesn’t matter, by on a higher level it does matter. At least to me.

Look, if this was all being played out squarely and above board, it wouldn’t be a death penalty case ( disclosure: I am not an advocate, with the exception of sadistic serial killers and some others) because it will be years and years in the courts, cost a fortune, it will not stop any other mother from killing her child, and in the end, I don’t believe Casey Anthony would get the death penalty anyway. I don’t know for certain if she is a sociopath, but on some level she isn’t right. Next, I believe that there should have been more Bar complaints, all the attorneys that heard these stories about Baez and the finances, and not one in FL files a complaint. And if Cheney Mason wanted to work pro bono why could’ve found someone desperately poor and possibly innocent to represent. Also, journalists should have grilled ABC about the terms and conditions of that deal. ABC should have apologized for misleading the public. I could go on and on, but I am going to leave now before my head explodes.

why could’ve…He (could’ve )could have

» WSH said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 01:04:07 } Also, journalists should have grilled ABC about the terms and conditions of that deal. ABC should have apologized for misleading the public.

@WSH – that truly would have been the pot calling the kettle black.

A desperate motion by a desperate defense for a desperate defendant.
I cannot believe the “stuff” the defense slings in this case. IMO, it is a joke. I wish the defense was required to prove that KC was innocent rather than create distractions from the case. It is almost like the law “errs” on the side of the “guilty”. The prosecution does not get the leeway the defense does (demands!!!).
Strickland seems to have been more than fair in this case. He has the patience of Job with the defense and the non-professionalism they have demonstrated since the beginning of this case.
Should Cheney Mason “resign” becuase of his apparent familiarity with the judge (e.g., comments at the first hearing when he was introduced as a new lawyer for the defense)? The defense has gone way beyond the point of being ridiculous by their recent motions and continuing antics. A WASTE, a huge WASTE of time and tax payers money.

*because

Hi Jan!

If you’ve got an hour or 10 to spare, read the comments in the Miscellaneous 9 thread. You’ll see you have lots of company. *mwah*

A journalist is anyone who collects and disseminates information. Dave is not a professional journalist, but he is a citizen journalist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_journalist

Jan, I agree with your Apr 17, 2010 – 01:04:52 } post. I questioned Judge Strickland’s judgment when Marinade Dave wrote in his blog that Judge Strickland called him to his chambers and complimented him on his blog. We do know Judge Strickland told the baliff to ask Marinade Dave to meet him in his chambers. We don’t know what the judge told Marinade Dave. If Judge Strickland reads Dave’s blogs he would know what Dave wrote that he said and if it wasn’t true, I would think Judge Strickland would demand Dave delete the blog. Since October 2009, Dave has also run a poem on his blog about Judge Strickland calling him to his chambers and saying he was impressed and that Judge Strickland saw him as a hero. Judge Strickland has never protested or Dave would have deleted the poem. He has deleted other blogs when he got complaints.

I think Judge Strickland will recuse himself without denying or admitting anything Dave told the defense. The mere hint that he is impartial could cause a guilty verdict to be thrown out on appeal and the entire trial would be a waste of time.

Jan, I too have grown impatient with Judge Strickland’s relaxed manner where he allows Baez to throw tantrums unchecked and Mason to say flippantly, “Trust me Judge.” He banters with the defense as if they are friends instead of reminding them that he is the judge and their nonsense will not be tolerated. The case needs a judge who will run the courtroom like a courtroom and not like a reality show. The judge and the defense attorneys all seem to be performing for the cameras.

I’m right with the thinking of Jan and MacArthur. We’re definitely watching a desperate defense here, as they’ll do anything to keep Casey alive. Hopefully, this won’t cause an additional delay of the trial date.

I have to admit, I cringed when the Judge made the comment about Casey and “The Truth”. That’s great for all of us “Pro-Caylee”, but, could that also be used against Judge Strickland that he’s biased?

It will be a shame for Judge Strickland to leave the case at this point, but I’m also hopeful that any other judge assigned to this trial will also be able to “call it like it is.”

Shame on Marinade Dave! Try “scruples check” right before “spell check” next time!

Maryland Girl said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 03:04:03 }
I have to admit, I cringed when the Judge made the comment about Casey and “The Truth”. That’s great for all of us “Pro-Caylee”, but, could that also be used against Judge Strickland that he’s biased?

Maryland Girl, some attorneys believed Baez should have tried to get Strickland removed when he made that remark about the truth and Casey Anthony are strangers in July 2008 and again when he made the remark that he was sealing the video of Casey hyperventilating when Caylee’s remains were found in December 2008 because if the jury saw it they would find her guilty.

Maybe Baez felt Strickland would be more fair than other judges but Mason doesn’t because the motion to remove Judge Strickland didn’t come until after he came on board. To me befriending a blogger who is pro prosecution seems less biased than the remarks he made in court.

» Maura said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 02:04:01 }
A journalist is anyone who collects and disseminates information. Dave is not a professional journalist, but he is a citizen journalist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_journalist

Maura

My intention was not to be hypercritical of Dave. The defense in their motion, did not refer to him as “citizen journalist” which would, of course, not only imply a different set of standards, but also a larger more wide ranging demographic ( other than people who closely follow the case, who, by the way, should not be potential jurors anyway). They used this term for the purpose, I believe, of making the site sound larger than it was because they argued that the judge was courting media for positive press. They have exposed more people to the blog via their motion and the FL sunshine law than Dave could have possibly imagined in his wildest dreams. My point was that they used that specific term “journalist” to make the judge’s actions seem more nefarious and wider reaching.

“but also a larger more wide ranging demographic”

that sentence made no sense…the wider ranging audience would refer to a “journalist” vs “citizen journalist”…but I hope you get the gist of my comment.

Does anyone know how many judges there are that could replace Strickland? It would be very interesting to see what the pool is like to see who the defense is hoping might replace JS. I know I have said it before, but regardless of this recent brainfart, I really don’t think they can do better. And quite frankly, whether we care to admit it or not, what judge is EVER going to ignore the law, cut the defense some slack or turn a blind eye in order to acquit Casey or reduce her sentence? The whole world knows she is guilty and any judge who would ignore the evidence, humor the gaggle of fools that makes up the defense, or not force the defense to pull their finger out would be commiting judicial suicide.

How many circuit judges are there in this jurisdiction to be picked from? Regardless, there will be a delay because time has to be given for the new judge to apprise himself of the facts in the case. The delay is a plus for the defense even if it is just a few weeks. Hornsby mentioned a Judge Perry. Someone in Orlando know anything about him?

Sally said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 03:04:54 }
Jan, I agree with your Apr 17, 2010 – 01:04:52 } post. I questioned Judge Strickland’s judgment when Marinade Dave wrote in his blog that Judge Strickland called him to his chambers and complimented him on his blog. We do know Judge Strickland told the baliff to ask Marinade Dave to meet him in his chambers.

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Judge Strickland did not call MD into his chambers nor did MD ever write that he met Judge Strickland in chambers.

On the videotape of that October 16, 2009 hearing, you can hear Judge Strickland whisper to the deputy that there was a guy sitting in the second row wearing a gray, striped shirt that Strickland wanted to “say hello to.” The pool feed cuts off a few seconds later (even before Casey was removed from the courtoom).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae5J_ObjkTw&feature=fvw

MD said the bailiff told him Strickland wanted to talk to him, and MD was called to the front of the courtroom. They spoke briefly in the courtroom while Strickland was standing behind a barrier. They did not leave the courtroom, and the exchange described by MD could not possibly have lasted longer than two or three minutes.

My point is that Judge Strickland did not attempt to speak to MD in super secrecy – they exchanged a few words inside the courtroom, and Judge Strickland’s request to the deputy to meet MD is on the pool feed.

How crazy this is! Don’t extend Casey’s life by good lawyering, do it by waiting for someone else to screw up!

At this point, I think this is the only card the Defense has to play.

Sally, to me, both are bad. Judge Strickland’s snippy comments when he knows the camara is on him and his need to have his ego fed on the internet should have been kept in check until after the trial.

Maura,

Thanks for the clarification on where the chat between SS and MD took place, however, I didn’t take Sally’s reference to “in chambers” to mean it took place in secrecy — perhaps you did.

From my perspective, neither where the chat took place nor the length of it changes the fact it just should not have happened. And that’s on Judge Strickland.

Has anyone noticed that the notary stamp Cheney Mason used on the motion expired on November 20, 2009? Can’t these clowns get anything right?

KWest,
If the money is right some Judges will do anything. I think that is what’s happening here. JB and Mason want JS off the case so they can replace him with who they want.
Dirty lawyering is what they call it…but the money has to be right. It happens all to often.

This video has a couple of extra minutes at the end of the hearing. The extra footage shows MD shaking hands with George, then being detained by two bailiffs. You can catch the very beginning of MD’s conversation with Judge Strickland.

http://www.wftv.com/video/21316541/index.html

Jan said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 04:04:51 }
Maura,

Thanks for the clarification on where the chat between SS and MD took place, however, I didn’t take Sally’s reference to “in chambers” to mean it took place in secrecy — perhaps you did.

From my perspective, neither where the chat took place nor the length of it changes the fact it just should not have happened. And that’s on Judge Strickland.

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“In chambers” means “in the judge’s private chambers.” I don’t know of any other meaning for “in chambers” in the context of a court proceeding.

Did anyone take notice of Cheney mason’s notary not being valid because he didn’t get it renewed? Doesn’t that make this motion null and void? Cheney Mason doesn’t impress me in the least if he can’t even put a valid notary stamp on his motion’s. I don’t know how much dumber this defense team can get. If Judge Strickland does step down, I hope they get a judge who will ride this defense team and make them sorry for ever asking him to be excused. It would serve them right. They should be careful for what they ask for.

Well if the rational of not giving KC a public defender was because it would set the case back so far was true, isn’t that what will happen if Judge Strickland recuses himself? How is it any different? If he has to leave the case (I hope not, he has been beyond fair and unbiased) and the case is set back, then there is no reason not to go with a public defender as well. IMHO

I dont know the rules for notaries, but it seems odd to me for someone to notarize their own signature/document. Shouldnt it have been notarized by a 3rd party?

Mason has driven drunk too, and paid the consequences as per court clerk records in OC.

Cheney Mason is a current Florida Notary Public. Notaries Public have to purchase their own stamps if they want one. He used an expired stamp, but his commission is current and valid.

http://notaries.dos.state.fl.us/notidsearch.asp?id=350371

Notary Public Commission Detail
Notary ID: 350371
Last Name: Mason
First Name: J.
Middle Name: Cheney
Birth Date: 12/12/43
Transaction Type: REN
Certificate: DD 920306
Status: ACT
Issue Date: 11/21/09
Expire Date: 11/20/13
Bonding Agency: Western Surety Company – Southeast Team
Mailing Address: Longwood, FL 32779-0000

Maura, thanks for the clarification. I was going by memory and I thought they did speak in the judge’s chambers. The feed caught the Judge saying he wanted to say hello to a guy in the second row. Did any video cameras catch the judge and MD talking and get a record of the conversation?

I was not suggesting that the judge met in secret with MD. I know that the courtroom was crowded and many people heard him tell the baliff he wanted to speak to MD. My point was if the judge and MD spoke in private, no one heard what they said. All we know is what MD wrote on his blog.

The judge may have been complimenting MD on a particular article. The defense is trying to say the judge was complimenting MD on all the articles he wrote including the article saying Casey Must Die.

I do feel it was a bad judgment call on Strickland’s part to single MD out when there are many legitimate journalists writing about this case who are fair and balanced and do not give their opinion. It boggles my mind that a judge would be seek out a blogger to compliment.

Even if Cheney’s notary was expired (which apparently it is not) all they would have to do is re-file the motion. This is a non-issue to me.

Jan, can I join your minority of 1, please? I’ve been going back and forth on Strickland from the start. WHAT WAS HE THINKING OF? If nothing else I eagerly await his explanation and maybe some clarity. His turning a blind eye to the most unprofessional, distasteful manners of the oafish Defense – (optimistically called “Team” HA HA HA!!!) and the Anthony family however, has really got me re-thinking my opinion of him. But then . . . he has made some very fair rulings, so I always end up eating my words. But, you know, does he want to be the cool Judge and allow more “freedom” in the courtroom by tolerating the roaming, insulting, gum chewing, lying, interrupting Team/Family . . . you have to draw the line somewhere. Do you wait till Baez is wearing sunglasses indoors & adding more hair jelly?

Sally, I feel the same way. And I get it, you know? Maybe he decided he’d have to pick and choose his battles because the Defense was offering so many different ones. Why, they’ve been silly with battles! How could you possibly take them all on!

Now, I hold WSH in highest regards and WSH says, “I believe now that he shouldn’t recuse himself because of the “bullying”. I don’t see that it is in the best interest of Casey Anthony; who may end up with a more hard lined judge, so this is a tremendous gamble for her, and on the other side, it does nothing to help the people of Florida (the taxpayers) who would want a fair balance of justice without unnecessary additional costs in this case. I think a higher court should decide. It may end up where Strickland remains and the proceedings can move forward. If not, then move on from there.”

I think that WSH has the answer. Let a higher court decide, if not, move on.

Sally said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 05:04:44 }

Did any video cameras catch the judge and MD talking and get a record of the conversation?

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Not that I know of, but I just read MD’s latest post, and he said various local media representatives are helping him behind the scenes. My first thought upon reading that was the local stations are pulling up all available feed for the end of that hearing and attempting to bring the conversation between Judge Strickland and MD to the surface so that everyone can hear exactly what Judge Strickland said.

Breaking news– MD and ‘the new judge’??? No– BUT…..

WESH airs Hornsby’s commentary on the Strickland situation, and said without doubt, the day will come for the defense to regret this motion as the biggest mistake they’ve made. Hornsby said defense lawyers have to know their judge and he’s been very fair to Casey in the way he sentenced her etc.

At the end of the WESH video, the comment was made that Judge Strickland will likely step down soon and possibly be replaced by Judge Belvin Perry. So, immediately I typed that into Google and what headed the list of results, but back to Marinade Dave’s blog.

MD wrote an article titled “Judge Belvin Perry, Jr.– little black boy”

Quite a coincidence, and to be fair, it gives some insight into Dave’s awkwardness with the comment from yet another judge, Judge Byrd (for whom he was doing some campaign work– commercial art assignment ). MD wrote about this comment and how he would have liked to withdraw from his assignment but it wasn’t possible.

“Judge Byrd … walked out of Mr. Stone’s office, he proudly exclaimed, “I’m gonna kick that little black boy’s ass.” Article posted on MD, 03/03/2006.

Judge Belvin Perry won his election and replaced Byrd, even with MD’s campaign help, now with MD’s help, he’s set to take Judge Strickland’s place?

As long as Judge Perry is not Irish– remember in her letters Casey commented that the Irish, know how to treat a woman and know how to cook, but she also said they’re a bunch of drunks).

If this was a ‘Southern attitude’, as speculated by MD, what of James Mason Cheney, the Colonel Sander’s look-alike and southern dude and his own southern attitude? Did Mason Cheney have amongst his apprarently wealthy private practice clientelle, non white wealthy people?

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN IS THE FLORIDA BAR GOING TO STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT BAEZ. HE SLIPS MAIL IN AND OUT OF THE JAIL FOR CASEY, LIES ABOUT EVIDENCE, LIES ABOUT PROVING CASEY IS INNOCENT, REPORTED FOR TOUCHING CASEY, NOW HE ATTACKS A JUDGE. HE’S A DEAD BEAT DAD, TOOK 8 YEARS TO OBTAIN HIS LICENSES. HE’S A DISGRACE AND SHOULD BE DISBARED. C. MASON LOOKS LIKE A GOAT TO ME, ACTS LIKE A GOAT.

OOOOOOO— the judge sports lavender shades!!!! COOOOOOL!!!

Belvin Perry reflects on his experiences in an article. Like Casey Anthony, Perry was the child of a police officer, so they have something in common. It could end right there, though.

http://www.ninja9.org/publications/soundblock/Summer-1999.pdf

Cheney and Strickland may have had a run-in because Baez, Lyon and Baden were writing frivolous motions and they never tried to throw the judge off the case. Maybe Judge Strickland will hold his ground and not let the defense run the show. I hope if he stays, he will crack down on the nonsense and run a tighter ship.

I may be mistaken (yet again) but I thought one of Dave’s most faithful followers was somehow connected to the courthouse, as in worked there or was there regularly in some capacity and was familiar with the judges and such. If true then couldn’t it be possible this person is someone who was on friendly speaking terms with numberous courthouse personel? Couldn’t it be possible that this person is someone that JS held in high regard and took them for their word that MD’s blog was one of the fairest without actually reading it himself? Couldn’t it be possible that this same person is the one that told JS that MD would be in attendance at a hearing and requested that JS call MD up to say hi as a personal favor? Isn’t it possible that this same person is the one that told JS that MD had been hospitalized and how much it would lift MD spirits to get a personal phone call wishing him well from the judge? How do we know that JS ever even personally read MD’s blog? How do we know that JS didn’t just say that he heard MD’s blog was fair rather than I personally think it’s fair? A little play on the wording makes a big difference in my opinion. Not saying all this did indeed happen but isn’t it just as possible?

IMO MD is a hyprocrite of the worst kind so I don’t take much stock in anything he has to say. As proof I’ll offer up his newest self-serving post today in where he basically insists people shouldn’t be judging him and calling him names while he judges and bashs everyone else calling them all kinds of names. ~sighs~

IMO if JS actually kept up with and read MD’s blog he would’ve known to steer clear of MD especially after all the things that have transpired there since that first fateful meeting at the courthouse. At this point in time I honestly don’t think JS kept up with MD’s blog. I also think if anyone was truly hoodwinked it was JS but then again we don’t know his side of the story…

waiting4cayleesjustice
April 17, 2010 at 5:50 PM

i guess bozo and the clowns don’t think judge strickland should have a life outside the cour
t room. well bozo asked for it and i’m going to laugh like hel when it backfires on them cause i think judge strickland has had the utmost respect and patience for bozo and the clowns. i personally think it’s another stall tactic. judge strickland has got more sense than to do what they are accusing him of and when it backfires and he stays on as the judge all i can say is bozo and team will be singing (WHO LET THEM DOGS OUT) because i feel stricklands patience with them will end and he will chew them a new one from here on out. JMO

» ccrider said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 06:04:16 }
C. MASON LOOKS LIKE A GOAT TO ME, ACTS LIKE A GOAT.

if it looks like a goat and acts like a goat then it must be a goat right? ROFLMAO
that’s a good one. i couldn’t quite put my finger on what he reminded me of but you nailed it my friend.

As if all of this stuff with JSS and MD didn’t give the defense enough ammo now MD has posted the PI name & contact number on his blog and asked his readers/commenters to inundate him with phone calls & emails. IMO, this boils down to harrassment & one of his commenters has said she has already called him. UFB, MD is an adult and could have chosen to terminate his conversation with PI Lyons at any time.

I firmly believe that Casey did murder her daughter, not by accident, but in cold blood. I do however want her to be tried fairly so that justice can be served. Would people out there please grab at half a brain and stop worry about catering to their egos & desire to be intimately involved with this. JHC.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggghhhhhhhh & haaarrrrrrumph

Unintended smiley.

I’m getting sleepy but this mess has really upset me. I’m trying hard to believe the case won’t lose Strickland but I’m not so sure.

Something I find very interesting (although I’m trying not to jump to conclusions) . . . But . . . a person who comments regularly on the case very respectfully asked some questions of Dave tonight on his blog.

The questions were,

1. You have not addressed the main issues here. Did the Honorable Judge Strickland initiate a relationship with you because he was ever so impressed with your blog as you have previously posted?

2, Did the Honorable Judge Strickland initiate contact with you when he heard you were ill and hospitalized just to check in with you?

3. Did you already know Judge Strickland before he saw you in the court room that day?

The questions were asked hours ago and from what I can tell MD has not answered them. Maybe everything will look better tomorrow after a good night’s sleep. I’m gone.

If it can be proved that the majority of what he wrote was untrue would the Judge not have to recuse himself?

You could be right about his opinion of Hinky’s. The only time I’ve ever heard him praise another blog has always been Blink’s but I do not read his blog regularly so I obviously don’t know all the facts and do NOT want to come across as someone who does.

I took a peek back at MD’s October 2009 posts. The October 16, 2009 hearing was the first hearing he attended. He had announced his intention to attend that hearing days in advance, and his photograph is on his blog, so if Judge Strickland had been reading his blog (that is not in doubt), then Strickland would have been able to spot him easily in the visitors’ section and might even have been looking for MD.

During the hearing, MD had a brief conversation with Brad Conway (and whispered to Conway a solution to a technical problem being discussed before Stickland).

After the hearing, MD shook George’s Anthony’s hand (it’s on the WFTV video) just before the bailiffs asked MD to stay behind.

After his brief conversation with the judge, MD followed the press outside for the post-hearing Q&A with Casey’s attorneys. MD gave Jose Baez his business card and asked Andrea Lyon a question that she answered. Then MD interviewed Joy Wray.

Maura !!! That’s kind of a lewd little smiley face there when you combine it with what you said. Ha ha ha . . . “she is really good” (wink, wink). Am over-tired.

BeesKnees,

I’ll scooch over on my bench here, please join me!

Another thing that disturbed me about Judge S. Remember the 2nd hearing about the autopsy photos? The one where we learned Jose and the gang hadn’t been able to access the photos through use of the nifty website Jose apparently couldn’t get set up, which didn’t matter anyway, because a couple of relics on the defense team didn’t have sufficient computer skills to make use of them anyway? That hearing?

Well, it was during that hearing, if I’m remembering right, that Stan remarked to Linda Drane Burdick that she was, of course, looking out for the FAMILY’S interests when it came to the security of the autopsy photos. To which Linda DB felt compelled to respond (and I quote): “No … actually my position is not to protect the family, my position is to protect the child who is deceased.”

While I was grateful for Judge S gave Linda DB the opportunity to make one of the finest statements heard to date in this case (in my opinion), I was amazed to realize the judge would think, given the conduct of the victim’s family, that the state would be looking out for their interests. Seriously?

Good one, Jan! I do remember that and YES, those few words were stellar. Nothing less. And Jeff Ashton’s passionate description of how Caylee died was also right up there. But, you are so right. Caylee should have been at the forefront of Strickland’s mind. Not the family!!! I think when I heard LDB say those words I knew that they were going to make sure Caylee was at the forefront and center of everyone’s minds as she should be!

I was a notary public for years and no, you can’t notarize your own signature and not supposed to notarize a relative either. their both no no’s

I’d still like to know who will hear & decide on the motion for Judge Strickland to recuse himself? The Judge can’t decide on a motion against himself, so does it go straight to a higher court?

What a bunch of

WAIT – BACK UP THE TRUCK!!! The Judge who has seemingly BENT OVER BACKWARDS to be fair to the Defense (at least in the “DP Casey Anthony camp” – AND THE DEFENSE WANTS HIM REMOVED??????? If Casey wants any proof of incompetent defense …this motion is proof positive! THE JERKS!

This motion is also mainly a “stalling tactic” – in that it will probably postpone even further the court date …but EGAD – at what price?? Why are you antagonizing the only ally you have?? It makes no sense!

» Jnetk – Nashville said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 08:04:53 }
I was a notary public for years and no, you can’t notarize your own signature and not supposed to notarize a relative either. their both no no’s

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Cheney didn’t notarize his own signature. He notarized Casey’s signature. AZLawyer over on WS notarizes the signatures of his/her own clients when they sign documents he/she has prepared.

I figured that Mason was looking to have his kick at the can re: all those previous denied motions by Judge Strickland (as reported by clickorlando, the defense’s own).

And the delays give Anthony more days before the jury comes back with a verdict, more days to live, if it’s ‘guilty’.

Anyone bet the relative media ’silence’ of the defense team (NYC interviews) will break this coming week with discussions of the judge with key words like biased, unfair, pro-prosecution to filter down into the jury pool?

What WAS Judge Stan thinking???!

Chief Judge Belvin Perry, Jr. WESH thinks he may be assigned the case for some reason.

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/judges/chief_judge/index.shtml

Thinker said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 09:04:37 }

YOU NAILED IT!

My apologies regarding my posting–the time of the posts was several hours ago–not “the last hour or so” as I said. I had become distracted here at home while writing my post.

Adam Longo reported (cfnews13.com) that the defense could ask that every motion Judge Strickland ruled on, be re-done. Would this mean that they get to resubmit AND re-argue, or just ask for a review by an appeal court?

New lawyer, new kick at the old cans.

I saw that Cheney Mason plead guilty to drunk driving a few years ago. I guess that the judge didn’t “trust” him if you know what I mean, wink, wink. I thought that you had to have a clean record to be a notary public. I mean the courts are accepting their word as a guarantee that people are telling the truth (so help me God). Kind of like Baez is an officer of the courts, so we should trust him too.

» Thinker said: { Apr 17, 2010 – 09:04:37 }

Yep. Nail on the head. Where’s that hammer at… here

Wonders said;
” Personally I think the defense should be in the same cell as KC is so that she can talk them to death.”

That is sooooooooooo funny !

Maura – thank you for the explanation regarding the notarization of the motion. I didnt realize he was just notarizing Casey’s signature and not his and JB’s too.

Great comments and musings…Hope we have some satisfaction this week, but Im afraid Val is probably right, Judge S will step down and the state of Fla can pay for the defense to finally work on this case. 300,000 bucks gone and what to show for it??? A few taped interviews by PIs of people like Jill Kerley not even remotely involved in this case. Now the state of Fla is paying a PI to share marinade with a blogger because..why? I hope this case will bring into review all the ethical questions we all ponder. Should a family of an accused murderer be privy to anything simply due to their relationship with the deceased? Should volunteers be subjected to PIs showing up at their doors fishing through their personal histories for reasonable doubt? If a body is found, can you legally just walk away and call anonymously rather than have all your ex’s have an opportunity to slander you with no documented proof? Should a lawyer be able to stand up in court, make a declaration of proof of innocence…yet produce no discovery to support this statement? Should tax payers waste money when losing homes and jobs, because a defense team is too lazy to walk or drive across town to review records, rather the state should pay to have said documents copied for them and rule on them multiple times? Can people baker acted multiple times, people with records involving crimes of dishonesty, people spewing nonsense on their blogs, truly impact a case despite not a shred of defensible discovery being offered? I thought OJ was an anomaly, a perfect alignment of imperfect people and conditions…maybe not so much…rather a perfect alignment of unscrupulous attorneys, with an agenda.

AZRenee – In addition to the perfect alignment of unscrupulous attys, something must be perfectly misaligned as well to account for all the crazies that have inserted themselves into this case. Ive never seen anything like it.

I say that the motion was written in bad faith. The defense wants to “Judge shop” as someone on WS stated : Nancy Botwin, who seems like a sharp cookie (no pun on Casey’s pen pal) . I call BS.

In terms of the MD blog rebuttal, no comment.

Nice day, finally. Enjoy.

WSH said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 08:04:19 }

A good friend brought up another reason for Judge shopping that I hadn’t thought of. Judge Strickland is all too aware of the true financial picture. Perhaps they also don’t want Judge Strickland involved in the upcoming Defense budget decision. Interesting timing in the order these two recent motions were filed.

» PotatoHead said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 08:04:40 }

WSH said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 08:04:19 }

A good friend brought up another reason for Judge shopping that I hadn’t thought of. Judge Strickland is all too aware of the true financial picture. Perhaps they also don’t want Judge Strickland involved in the upcoming Defense budget decision. Interesting timing in the order these two recent motions were filed.

A-HA! Good thinking. I do not think this judge should step down. It sets a nasty precedent. He needs to take a stand for fairness in the courts and for the people of FL. Sorry, no rant today.

IF a new sheriff comes to town, it is my opinion that the D. Team will not be permitted to attempt to “run” the show and further that a new set of ground rules could be set with much tighter parameters and maybe even zero tolerance when it comes to monor bending of the Rules of Court.

I mean NO OFFENSE to Floridians, but I have read different sources over the years that, yes, there is corrpution in the Court systems (as in many large metro. areas) but judge-shopping in Casey Anthony’s just wouldn’t meet the “criteria for bribery” (a yardstick for a lunatic) on many levels but the lack of big money and lack of the accused importance/influence are 2 that come to mind.

I see this as a power play by the Defense. It is not uncommon. It is risky. They’ve thrown down the glove, but that’s about it in my opinion. Another Judge will entertain this motion, stand by Hizzoner’s sterling reputation and deny the motion. The system of American Jurisprudence will not turn on itself and discredit this man for the likes of this crazy attempt to muddy the waters. It won’t be the last faux pas by the Defense either. silly people.

As John Lennon said: “Instant karma’s gonna get you Gonna knock you right on the head…”

monor = minor

Do you think the defense will ask the Baliff to recuse himself next? LOL! After all they ARE grasping at straws.

Well one good thing about Judge Perry, if in fact he becomes the new judge, is he is from Texas, and educated in Texas, and Texans have no problem with the death penalty when it’s appropriate.

Listened to the tape of the hearing where you can very clearly hear JS describing MD to the baliff for him to summon Dave to an audience with him. Folks, sorry as much as I like JS, this is WAY OVER THE TOP for someone in his position. I wonder if JS was ready to relieve himself of this trial? Also, I disagree with whoever said this is about money. The MD fellow is reaping BIG benefits in this, and excuse me folks, but you can look at him and tell he isn’t the brightest light bulb in the bunch. And for Hornsby to suggest that this was a mistake on the part of defense, I think is misguided. Cheney Mason knows exactly what he is doing, and it is all about stacking the deck! Give the devil his due – this was very clever on the part of Mason. If it is like a lot of jurisdictions he has a good idea who will take over this case. The defense will revisit the EQS issue with the new judge as well-just watch.

All good points, no doubt Judge shopping is happening. Sad. As far as crazies orbiting this case, if the people PAYING for the justice system dont MONITOR the justice system…who will? I watch my state and community hearing on local tv, with active members in the military I try to ascertain what I can about our war intentions, and as a health care professional I try to stay informed on the new laws and health care reform. Why not take advantage of the Fla sunshine laws to get a better look see behind the justice system? JMO.

I agree also Linda, Mason is not stupid. He is making a power play here, I guess the next call goes to the state of Fla. The question is does he hold a pocket pair or is he bluffing?

No one said Mason wasn’t smart, but the PI is brilliant in his use of psychology.

At any rate, Strickland’s fate is sealed, he’s gone:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/17/blogger_i_will_forever_be_remembered_as_defenses_scapegoat.html

“What the judge needs to do is toss this motion out because it smacks of desperation. When Baez and Mason must attack a blogger and a distinguished member of the court, clearly, they have run out of options,” Knechel said.

Since someone can not STOP talking, the judge WILL HAVE to step down, or it will look like he is taking someone’s advice or “opinion”. Way to go!

Sorry Val, I just missed your post. Did you ever see a car crash about to happen and the feeling you get that it WILL happen and that despite your best intention to wave your arms, scream, honk your horn it DOES happen??? Hence the frustration…sorry .

Thanks Val for setting the topic, trusting all to act maturely and stick to the topic. Now just to wait and see. Most cases attempt to unseat the judge at some point when big media is involved etc, so this shouldn’t surprise anyone. Speculation is fine, but while we know Judge S record as being fair etc etc, do any of us know how he will respond to this charge? Now there is something I can research…I wonder if he has faced this motion before…

Val,

For some reason I feel very saddened by the filling of this Motion and I know this is stupid because JS is a big boy but it doesn’t feel right… Is it just me that feels this way? I know this is not a matter of JS did not deserve it, all the bad press and National Media brought a lot bad attention to “Your Honor”. Oh well, just venting. I also got saddened when defense brought suspicions upon Mr. Kronk as well.

FRG ~ I too feel very sad about this motion. I don’t really understand the law and Im hoping that Judge Strickland does not step down and all this nonsense goes away. We need to start concentrating again on the evidence to convict Casey and bring justice for Caylee to the forefront where it belongs.

It was a good method to stop everyone from talking about the dreadful jailhouse letters, wasn’t it?

KathyNY said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 11:04:00 }

Hi there Kathy! Well put!!! We all know how the defense has their ways to twist the truth and draw our attention to someone else but KC and all of the circumstantial evidence Prosecution has collected. Yes, our focus should be on the facts and thank goodness Val has done a great job so we can learn, at least I have and a lot. Let’s not forget JWG, Silver and Maura, forgive me if I forgot any of Val’s collaborators (is that what you call Val? )… it’s been a blessing.

FRG,

I don’t think there’s anything about this motion to feel anything BUT sad about. BUT, it is what it is. Affects Casey Anthony a lot more than it does me (or you) – and I don’t think it’s going to affect her positively…just my opinion.

I don’t read at that certain blog, but have read at many others and in chat rooms that mainly concentrate on Caylee and the on going case. I always liked Judge Strickland and hate to see him go, and I think he will be gone soon.

It just seems to me that KC has a black cloud following her and anyone that comes under its shadow is cursed or driven mad.

Ever notice how some of the characters in this case appear normal until they interject themselves into this circus. Then we find them going from one extreme to another, From hanging upside down in tree’s to selling their souls for a dime.

I really hope the SAO carries garlic and holy water with them everywhere they go and I hope they stay out of the limelight with a low profile until the trial.

Hopefully in another year this “taint” will go away and people will come down out of the trees or wake up with a bloody dime in their hand and realize what they have done.

Yeah, I liked Judge Strickland and he will be OK.

Next year.

IIRC, It was shortly after Dave wrote the articles about the computer store guy, when Judge Strickland spoke to him after one of the hearings. I remember thinking to myself,
I’ll bet JS read those articles……..I haven’t looked to check the dates of the article and the hearing so I could be way off…….
Frankly I can’t imagine JS reading Dave’s blog on a regular basis, because if he had, he would not have singled him out to stroke his already gigunda ego. JMO
O/T….my hubby was recently dx with prostate cancer. He had surgery last Monday in Washington,DC……so I’m a little out of the loop as of late following the case.

Sorry Val for the O/T

Valhall said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 11:04:18 }

Yes, you are right as usual Val.

I feel like we’re watching the defense sliding into quicksand in real time.

Either Strickland remains and is unfazed by the goings on, will continue to rule appropriately in his usual manner — or he will be replaced by a seasoned judge who has awareness of the case (who could avoid it?) and will not let his courtroom into a free-for-all. There aren’t all that many Lance Itos folks.

I’m cautiously euphoric (if one can be both) about this turn of events as I envision a serious and well-run, no-nonsense courtroom from here on in.

I do feel badly for the Judge on a personal level, this is true. He no doubt is not saavy about bloggers (this is evident) and he, from the goodness of his heart, stuck his foot into doodoo. I know there’s an emoticon for that but I can’t bring myself to use it lol.

But you know what? At the end of the day, Judge Strickland is a good human being. This reminds me of how I feel when I’m wont to drop a buck into a tin can held out by a homeless person on the street. When I do a passerby will invariably say: “They’ll just buy liquor or drugs, don’t be a fool!”. And I decided long ago, well, that’s on the person who misled me with their plea. Either they’ll buy the food and I did a good thing, or they’ll buy something else. And I still did a good thing.

Judge Strickland’s conscience is clear and so is his karma. That’s more than I can say about anyone else in this crew of jerks. Every last one of them will experience some form of divine retribution for their *hubris*. The Judge will be blessed.

Valhall, maybe they are doing this because ‘they can’.

It’s a gamble, but they must believe it’s worth it.

Judge Strickland seemed bothered by the circumstances of this case from early on, saying the results of the cadaver dog search ‘will keep me up at night’ (paraphrasing). His comments in a decision seemed fine when he commented that Casey has not helped at all in the search for her daughter– the defense will disagree of course, and will attack the judge later (?) for these statements on the record for all the jury to hear?

If you haven’t got a defense, go on the attack. They can’t do worse than keep Judge Strickland who says you can’t have TES records– the defense waited until they tried that a second time. They might get a more sympathetic judge, and if allowed, they can send Mr. Lyons to comb through each and everyone of those to find someone who has some disgruntled neighbours or ex’s, etc, or a criminal record, or drinking problem or blue hair, and attack them publicly for the jury pool to create the perception of so much done wrong and covered up by this Judge and the state.

Their modus is to attack the opposition as a ‘media hound’. Cindy said it of Mark NeJame, Baez said it of the prosecutors, they used the same against Zenaida Gonzalez’s lawyers, they used it again in their recent pressers against who, this time… anyone and everyone. Yet they are the ones who used the media, the Larry Garrison’s, the Todd Black/Gil Cabot of the media underworld first thing July ‘08, the Geraldo’s, every morning and evening show, 48 HRS and crime shows, Larry King, almost Oprah, Spanish speaking media, JVM and InSession, M&J show, Nancy Grace show with appearances by Baez, Cindy, Holly, FoxNews special private interviews with two parents then one parent, every media op for George and Cindy to get in front of cameras in the early Haleigh Cummings search with promos for Kidfinders, special victim’s speaking tour engagements (cancelled). And on and on.

Then they attack others for being media hounds when they created the media circus to begin with.

oops… ykwam…. didn’t mean to say can’t do worse than ‘keep JS’– can’t do worse by not keeping JS… (what’s the best OOPS icon in the lineup…. let’s see … )

It seems since last year, the only defense the defense has is the ‘I am innocent’ claim that they have yet to support except in sworn and not sworn statements by Buchanan, Jordan and Wray. They have to get the complete records of TES to see what and who they can ‘Kronk’. And in doing that investigation, they are doing the job of the state and all of their resources enlisted to help. We’ve heard so many times out of Cindy’s mouth, George’s too, that everyone from Dr. G. and her alleged results of Caylee DNA (all disputed as that of Caylee in the summer ‘09 depositions), that NO ONE was doing their jobs and looking for a ‘live’ Caylee, now they are making up DNA results to fit, and making up Foxnews interview stories with Holly the bubblegum bubbling reporter, that investigators would not allow the grandparents to look at the videos of Caylee at the airport). Lie after lie– George knew the investigators met the child in question, met both children on that flight and he could have flown to Georgia to get Caylee if he believed that strongly, he could have found PI Lyons or equivalent, to help him. Spinning lie after lie.

Anyone think that the results of Casey being able to unseat a highly respected judge from a case, will not send shivers through the courts and all the players, at least so they err on the defense’s side in issues such as document releases and the upcoming budget hearing? The defense wants to be able to use the same $$$ value in defending Casey as the state has used to prosecute her and they need to wipe the slate clean and get a new judge in to help them do this.

Skyline Pigeon said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 12:04:38 }

lol! Gee, I only wrote about the judge because I wanted everyone to know what a swell guy he is!

(low vibrational frequency so-called good intention).

On the other hand, did the Judge inquire about MD’s health and tell him he liked the blog because he had an agenda to acquire fame and fortune (snort) by being promoted?

No. JS = high vibrational frequency intention – pure intention. Doesn’t lead to hell.

Kleat:

“Anyone think that the results of Casey being able to unseat a highly respected judge from a case, will not send shivers through the courts and all the players, at least so they err on the defense’s side in issues such as document releases and the upcoming budget hearing.”

Definitely not!

Has the expired notory seal on the motion been discussed? Please I want to know if they must refile the motion because of it?

Notorizing signatures when your seal is expired is against the law isn’t it?

I know a lot of people think notorizing is a stupid hassle, but it is not nothing.

Also, are you allowed to notorize your own signature in Florida? That is not allowed in Ohio.

Tob – it has been discussed. He has an up to date notary stamp, but used the old one by mistake. He was not notarizing this signature, but Casey’s. Nice try!

I wasn’t trying anything, I was wondering. I haven’t been on much this weekend.

Where is it corrected and how do we know he said it was a mistake?

Is it normal for defense attorneys to be so sloppy when they file motions, (there has been some boo boo in almost everyone) or is it just these guys?

I thought this was the first decently written thought out motion, then at the bottom, Doh!

Good, JennyB. But maybe they will think about erring on the side of Casey in the motion decisions to be reviewed, if any. Maybe the opposite will happen, maybe clues in this old video of one of Baez’s previous attempts for recusal, this instance, he was after the state. Maybe this action will work against Casey.

‘Scorched Earth Campaign’ — it’s happened before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXvo0lxnbGI&feature=related

Is this the ‘Alienation Defense’??

The attempt to have the DP removed backfired– http://www.youtube.com/user/hornsbylaw#p/u/33/_TJr4fMWLpE

Kleat -

I don’t think they’ll be cowed, they won’t act out of anger either. Whoever the judge is will be steady. They’ll probably go more by the letter of the law now — and give no breaks for excuses, bad motions, and all the other nonsense — which in this case is NOT good for Casey.

They don’t want a FAIR judge. But they will get one.

Too bad so sad.

Kleat
I don’t think the judge cares how much they spend as long as it is within the rules. No other judge will give them more or less than they are entitled to by statute.
Unless I am missing your point? In which case please explain again to me. lol, thanks!

All I can say about the Dave that is now marinading in doo doo, is Dave,Dave, Dave and shake my head.
He needs to go fishing and stop talking for awhile.

JennyB, and the state has the transcript now of the hearing from last summer, where the judge said the defense had to step up and give the evidence of their client’s innocence. Of course the judge knew they wouldn’t as he said ‘that’s what you get for grandstanding’.

It will be interesting to see if the next judge allows them full access to copy the TES records to go fishing for Kronks. (insert fish hook icon here)

Kleat – yup. He’s given them so many breaks it’s unbelievable. If any other judge has to review what’s gone on up to this point and is required to re-rule — well the defense can cry me a river.

Sprocket thinks the defense (Mason) doesn’t really want the judge to go — just wants him to be intimidated and lean more toward the defense in his rulings.

In my opinion if the Judge stays he will NOT budge one inch from his integrity. If he feels in any way he might be affected by the motion to recuse then he will realize this and go. I’d stake my life on it because this Judge cannot be bullied or bribed or bought.

I’m pretty sure that anyone can become a Notary Public, as long as you don’t have a ciminal record. Years ago (33 to be exact), I worked at an insurance company and one of the adjusters was looking into it. She was told that she couldn’t notarize her clients statements, conflict of interest of course since she was representing the insurance company and changed her mind. You don’t have to be a lawyer to be a notary. His official stamp being outdated is not a big deal IMO. Costly if they have to resubmit but not a big deal.

I don’t see how they can install Judge Perry in the case as Mr. MD already blogged about his association with that one too. If the standard holds it has to be someone, anyone, that never had the misfortune of running into that guy.

If any Judge even stood next to him in a supermarket line 10 years ago and sneezed it would’ve been dissected, written up, crowed about and thus the judge should be disqualified for that reason alone.

jennyb said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 01:04:11 }

Sprocket thinks the defense (Mason) doesn’t really want the judge to go — just wants him to be intimidated and lean more toward the defense in his rulings.

Actually, I wrote that article. I gave that as one of two. I have a lot more in my head, to be sure!

My second thought was that Mason wants a new judge so he can have a “do over” with some of the motions. The ones involving TES are some I’m thinking of.

It’s an indication to me that the defense hasn’t been able to come up with a defense yet to match Baez’ and Macaluso’s assertions.

To add to that a bit, I believe Mason is into a power grab in the case and feels he can “handle” any other judge assigned to the case… a sure sign of ego.

Tell that to Nelson Serrano…

Ritanita said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 01:04:19 }

heh. I should’ve linked to the post. I did think about it but got lazy. Thank you!

(and tell us more in that fine head of yours… please!)

I have notorized marriage certificates, property transfers and wills. Like I said before, a lot of people think it’s nothing and anyone can become a notory. After learning the laws regarding it. And you take an oath. When you screw it up, it is not nothing. How would you like your will voided?? Or your land transfer erased when you leave your property to your kids?

In this case it maybe easily fixed, but you can be fined and reprimanded by the state.

I realize this is a very minor point in the big Princess Poopy Pants picture, but she sure has some sloppy arrogant attorneys.

IIRC, did defense add in their Memorandums part of the blog’s articles and comments, I mean the ones dedicated to KC’s case? I remember I saw OS comments in their Motion, can anybody help me out here? it also makes me think that JS was forced to read a few blogs. I am sorry if I am blabbing. Just wondering.

Did they give any supporting evidence that the Judge made comments about wanting to try the Anthony case after his re-election? I don’t see any witnesses listed, and why would this be hurtful to the defense? Time is good for their side, usually.

I am confused. Again.

FRG ~
Yes, you are correct that in previous motions, there has been mention and notations of other blogs listed.

So, yes, it would seem apparent that he would have had to have “looked into them”.
Good point ~ thanks.

I am wondering what kind of precedence this sets if a judge can be taken off (or intimidated to go off) a case under these circumstances. Oh the irony, considering said blogger’s earlier position of having to fend off accusations often of being a CMA supporter. Would the situation be different if the Judge and a blogger knew each other previously (to case) and Judge called him up to wish him a speedy recovery in a health matter? What are the guidelines for Judge behavior?

Skyline Pigeon said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 02:04:49 }

It occurred to me after I read Ritanita’s article today, she is the one who brought this to my attention… I remember I read another Motions and there were comments from the blogs, so that’s what made me think. The credits should go to her, not me, forgot to mention it. Sometimes one thing leads you to the other.

Will Marinade Dave’s shennigans bring down a well respected jurist with an impeccable record? I think not.

Whoever that Sproket is with the notion that the motion was filed to intimate JS to rule more favorably toward the defense is NUTS! Lawyers don’t play games filing motions to disqualify a JUDGE presiding over a case they are on to intimate that judge. The fact that the motion was filed means that JS will step down and probably will do so immediately. I do believe the defense is after TES records.

Gracie

I have never heard the show he will be on tonight, but if it allows callers I hope someone asks him how it is that he knew that motion was going to filed and what it contained.

Kleat, from day one I have thought that any judge who had this case would realize he would be under a microscope and would make every ruling knowing that it would be reviewed by his peers across America. I think any judge who takes his place will realize the same. A judge has to rule according to the laws, if I am correct. I recognize that some things have to be ruled on by his discredition…ie: the jailhouse tape of Casey hearing that Caylee’s body had been found.

So, IMO the next judge up would also have to recognize he will be scrutinized for his rulings and decisions. Someone who knows, please tell me I am right. Sighs

Even after reading carefully Silver’s words Friday night and reading the motion, I still held out a desperate hope that Judge S would not have to recuse or whatever you call it…..

But, after the continued running of mouth over the weekend (in complete disregard to how doing so is affecting this case)……all I can do is shudder and remember this important fact.

We have heard a helluva lot of b/s from the defense and we have heard little from the prosecution. Their day to speak is coming and I am sure they have a lot to say. And I want to watch every lowlife face of the one’s who have cast aside the horrific facts of the death of this baby…….. as the defense has their say.

I think tomorrow will be an interesting day in the case. Enough fodder for the media hounds to exploit and twist. And a day when a PI steps into the spotlight and pounces. Sighs, this case did not need another clown in the circus. As grandpa used to say….there’s no fool like an old fool…..JMO

Off topic, but waves at Thisbe! For those who do not know her…her expertise can help us a lot in understanding all this bunch of oddballs!

Delete anything I should not have said, Val. I feel I know you from reading so much here…I think I’ll buy myself a hinkyhat, but, only wear it when no one’s looking. The great minds here blow me away!

When Judge Strickland retires, he should write a book and send it to MD, entitled ‘Tact and the real world’

Hey, Shelly! The defense needs to do what the defense needs to do– desperate acts for desperate people! I think they have one DIFFICULT client, fine when the media money was a’rollin’ in, but now, almost two years later, they’re getting down to repair the boat and hope it floats a little while longer.

» Kleat said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 03:04:13 }
When Judge Strickland retires, he should write a book and send it to MD, entitled ‘Tact and the real world’

I think the title should be “When to STFU”. Sorry, I hope I haven’t offended Ms V.

WSH!!! lol!!!!

I have not read any comments on this but I’m sure someone probably has said what I am getting ready to say….It seems approx. 3 months ago on the web page marinade dave, dave did have an article about how he went to one of casey’s court dates and after court someone came up to dave & told him judge Strickland wanted to speak with him, which they did have conversation. I dont know why this is just now coming out, seems to me that if there was a problem they would have discussed it then, If I remember correctly after that Dave spoke with Jose. So is there really a beef? could the judge be taken off? I hope not. Now I will go back & read the comments to see if any light can be shed on my curiosity! Thanks for any input, I read this blog alot, I usually dont comment.

Was this PI was hired to question Marinade Dave AFTER Casey was found to be indigent? I’m not sure when this happened but if it’s true, I’m wondering where the funds came from to pay for the PI. If before, we certainly know who paid. Either way, WOW. Talk about grasping to win the impossible, eh Baez? Baez should recuse himself as a lawyer.

Great great site Val. I love the kindness and consideration everyone shows towards each other, especially Val!

Peace xo

» Ragdoll said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 03:04:36 }

They haven’t had the hearing yet on the indigent budget, that motion was filed right before the motion to have the judge removed, So they are, I would guess, technically in limbo. I suppose that they will pay him when they get their budget.

It appears to me that Judge Strickland was in full accord with the requirements of Canon 2B with regard to the following pertinent questions:

Based on the alleged content of Judge Strickland’s brief courtroom conversation with Marinade Dave, would a reasonably intelligent person be led to believe that the Judge was attempting to advance the private interests of himself or Marinade Dave? IMO, the answer is “no” as he only complimented MD on his writing skills and the fairness of the articles he wrote as compared to those he had read on other blog sites.

Did Judge Strickland convey or permit Marinade Dave to convey the impression to others that MD was in a special position to influence the judge? IMO, this answer is also “no.” Judge Strickland did not permit Marinade Dave to broadcast an edited version of his private conversation with the Judge via his blog site. While it is true that Marinade Dave may have conveyed the impression via his blog site that he was in a special position to influence the judge, he did so without the prior knowledge and consent of Judge Strickland.

Thank you for clarifying that for me WSH. I’m now more enlightened. I wasn’t aware a budget was to be determined but that makes perfect sense. Is there a ‘duh’ icon for me? <—- for now

Val, do you think there’s ANY chance Strickland will stay on the case?

My personal opinion, Bees, is no.

Val

If you have any idea, what happens with the budget meeting if Strickland recuses himself?
How can he possibly rule on that, if the defense says that he can’t make fair rulings?

I hope next time the JAC shows up in court instead having Charlie Brown’s teacher call in. Is there anyway that the JAC gets to review the sealed docs on the ledger, especially if Strickland is gone? If Strickland is recused, can the media lawyers fight to have that revealed, since maybe it wasn’t fair not to release it to the public (insert snark here)?

anyway-any way

Stocirpa,

I appreciate your comment and agree. However, I am now concerned because I have read MD’s “the-dog-ate-my-homework” post and there’s a part where he states emphatically that the Judge should throw this motion out (ad infinitum, ad nauseum). While I do think the motion should be denied, what further grounds for contention would the Defense have to work with arising from MD’s rant?

IMHO there is “bad blood” between JB and the Judge because of the grievance the Judge filed against him; the comment about CMA and the truth; the fact that JB grabbed all the blood money as fees before he would pay costs and had to answer for it in open court…and on and on. Now, it would seem that JB will also have to answer questions (at the least) about smuggling contraband/communications into the jail. I believe that the Defense Team with JB in the lead has been scratching for ANYTHING they can come up with for a Motion for Recusal and one egotist’s quest for fame and credibility opened the door for them. (Oh yes, I am beyond upset about this happening in our legal system, yes I am.)

Up until this indiscretion on the judge’s part, I can’t see why they would want to
replace him. He proved his fairness with the check fraud trial, has bent over backwards
to give every consideration to even the most ludicrous motions and was certain not to
approve death even if voted by a jury. However having learned of his blog connection,
I now can’t blame them for filing. It’s enough evidence that perhaps he does have a
strong bias, even though his actions so far have shown otherwise. Also I doubt that
Baez is going to be disbarred for handing out Twizzlers.

Also…I think that Mason is behind this bizarre new one-upmanship of the legal system
strategy. Publicly slamming the JAC, taking an arrogant attitude in court as if he has
ultimate seniority and all should defer and now possibly judge shopping and trying to
manipulate or gamble with the system for what he perceives to be a possible better
outcome, etc. If they continue with this trend, they will definitely alienate either a jury
or bench judges and sink their own ship.

Chat: I, too, am concerned about the fact that Marinade Dave doesn’t seem to subscribe to the adage that “loose lips sink ships” as his ship has been sinking since he went ga-ga over the private conversation he had with Judge Strickland and, without the Judge’s knowledge and consent, chose to repeat and embelish in subsequent postings on his blog site.

At this point, even after acknowledging that he is “in over his head,” he chooses to make comments on this matter via his blog when there is absolutely nothing he can do to reverse or improve upon this situation . IMO the best thing he can do at this point is SHUT UP! I assume you are in agreement with this.

Okay…HEADS UP! I have cleaned up this thead and removed all posts that center on Dave versus the Judge or the situation that currently exists about the Judge and the motion. Those comments have been moved to the miscellaneous thread.

PLEASE REVIEW WHAT GOT LEFT BEHIND AND WHAT GOT MOVED IF YOU ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS SITUATION.

Thank you.

» Tob said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 01:04:47 }

I know a lot of people think notorizing is a stupid hassle, but it is not nothing.

Tob, you are correct, it is NOT nothing. I have been a notary for years, and was once subpoenaed to testify in court regarding a document I notarized.

NWA

When it comes to chosing a new Judge who’s the decider?

You know what, Bees…I have no idea. Maybe AZlawyer or Silver can tell us about that process.

I’m just guessing but maybe the Chief Judge would make the decision as to which judge would come next?

Maybe based on caseload.

Chief Judge Belvin Perry would be the procedural justice but since the MD brouhaha about this man as well as about S. Strickland, I am not so sure that Orange County wouldn’t have to go before a judge in another county to have this Motion heard. http://www.ninthcircuit.org/judges/chief_judge/ Depending on Florida Rules, most likely they will get a judge from outside of Orange Co.

Which brings my hand up to smacking my forehead and thinking that @#$%^ defense is going to try to effect a change of venue yet. Does this besepak of far reaching tentacles or am I over reaching (didn’t know I was an octopus in a previous life, didja)?

Chat Lunatique said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 07:04:40 }

After what MD wrote about that judge and in such a familiar way (ending it with something like “he’s a real great guy and so humble” I don’t see how Judge Perry could be the decider-er without being severely challenged on his decision, based on his so-called relationship with Kevin Bac… I mean…. There could certainly be a firestorm over this as well.

Chat, it is like a game of chess isn’t it? Could be the defense (Mason) is looking ahead quite a few moves.

I think we should be on the misc. thread. I’m heading over there now.

Accidental smilie but I guess it works.

If I owe you an ooopsie, here it is. I thought I was OnTopic here but it’s a toss up, I guess. Good night all

The piece MD wrote about Judge Perry was in 2006, and it wasn’t so much about Perry as it was about another Judge running against Perry in an election. I don’t see how it would have anything to do with the current situation.

Maura, thanks, I thought that was obvious so didn’t explain. Thanks for picking up the ball. Of course it’s an early article, and only about Perry insofar as the other judge made a somewhat questionable comment about beating him in an election. And no, nothing to do with this case, just an interesting coinkydink that now, Judge Perry ‘may’ take the case himself (a comment by WESH at the end of their report on the motion).

Bees, Valhall and T2M,

Looks like it would be the Chief Judge as he’s just removed one of the 9th circuit judges of his duties.

From WFTV today’s story:
“OSCEOLA COUNTY, Fla. — A Ninth Judicial Circuit Court judge based in Osceola County is off the bench after an order by Chief Judge Belvin Perry.
The administrative order relieved Judge James Turner of his duties on Friday. It’s not clear why the chief judge issued the order.”

Maybe this is only for relieving a judge of his duties, and not recusing a judge from an individual case.

I’d expect that in either case, Judge Strickland would discuss the matter with the Chief Judge.

Anybody wondering like me where DC’s investigative interview is in all of this? Why not shoot for the moon and see if another Jurist will call it ‘work product’ after all?

Nothing like a well-timed Hail Mary play.

You know, this move/rant on Judge Strickland, if not critical to Casey’s defense, could well be Cindy’s push to get this done for her own reasons. If Hornsby is right and they will be sorry one day, could this move be to satisfy Casey and her mother?

I suppose we will see once motions are refiled to be reviewed, what the review says about Stricklands decisions.

Ms. Linda K-B sleeps with a man who has commented in an anti-Casey sense on some of the early mega-media shows about forensics related issues about Caylee’s murder and he said it’s all ok because they sleep with a Chinese Wall between them on this issue.

What makes this different?

PotatoHead, maybe in the next doc dump, but maybe that will continue to be fought as to it being sealed and fought in it’s place in the evidence at court.

» Kleat said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 09:04:07 }

Thank You Kleat, I didn’t know a judge was recently removed.

» PotatoHead said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 09:04:47 }

Anybody wondering like me where DC’s investigative interview is in all of this? Why not shoot for the moon and see if another Jurist will call it ‘work product’ after all?

Nothing like a well-timed Hail Mary play.
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Good point, and isn’t the civil trial coming in June? Different Judge but ?

Kleat said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 09:04:53 }
I believe desire to seal the DC interview may be part of this agenda. Not sure by any means, but it certainly has crossed my mind.

gracie34 said: { Apr 18, 2010 – 10:04:37 }
Yes, the civil case is in June. I think Judge Garcia is still hearing it, isn’t he?

Gracie, Rodriguez, not Garcia– judge in civil trial.

I know I’m late to the ball, figures that Friday is the day I would pick to have a spinal tap procedure.
Anyhow, I’m so sorry Dave’s been added to the Defense’s “BUMBLES LIST” of people to throw under the bus to “deflect deflect deflect.”
Anyone following this case, and the lawyers’ who have been gracious enough to comment, know that not only is Judge Strickland a very fair impartial judge. But that he has bent over backwards, allowing Baez all his ridiculous antics, misspelled and incorrectly factual motions to give Casey Anthony the highest of impartiallity (SP?) because of the notoriaty of the case and the DP in place. I and lawyer’s have baffled at the baffoon antics of the defense and are amazed at Strickland’s tolerance, in an effort, IMHO, to give Casey the fairest trial, despite her choice of counsel.
I guess if you blog on cases, you may have some idea that it might come back to you. I’m sorry they blindsided Dave, something I don’t think he deserves. But from the moment Dave wrote that Judge Strickland had asked to speak to him, I’ve wondered when it would become a “tactic”. That is their MO. My question would be, this happened how long ago, 7-8 months or more??? Why bring it up now????
And everyone is totally right on, they have not only shot themselves in the foot, but now have the kill “gut”shot, they will slowly and surely bleed out, to death. I see the hand of the “Princess” on this, I see her saying “I don’t like that Judge, he won’t just drop my case like I told him to do, off with his head”. This move, again IMHO, will be the biggest tip of their hand, if Judge Strickland recuses, and I almost hope he does, so the defense will get one of our city’s nastier hangin Judges’, and people in Central Florida know who those Judges’ are.
When Casey drew Judge Strickland’s court, my first thought was “well, at least she’s got a Judge who will be fair, and competant, and consider the legalities of the very difficult Death Penality cases legal wranglings.”
She really is a “stupid spiteful bitch.” IMHO (ok I added the stupid)

Kleat, or anyone, how much influence do you think Cindy (or George) have on what goes on with the defense? After all THEY are no paying for her defense. I think their agenda goes way beyond defending their “innocent” client.

Can some smart person give us a rundown on Judge Belvin Perry?

Hello everyone,
I hope its okay to post here. I wanted to say that I don’t think Jerimiah Lyons is related to Andrea Lyon. I did a quick google check. It seems he’s from New York and comes from an affluent family of lawyers. There was another Jerimiah Lyons who passed away in the 60s. He was a highly respected attorney as far as I can tell.
Everyone thinks I’m dumb because I “somewhat” believed the lunch story. I automatically think the best of people unless I know different, which I did not. I’m relatively new to MD’s site. I have no negative pass experiences so I really didn’t know what to make of it. What’s odd is that he posted it on Nov 30, 2009 article. That’s where I had left my last post. I didn’t see it anywhere else, so I didn’t know what to think. It just seemed hinky..lol @ this point it doesn’t matter.
I’m in complete agreement with most here as to Judge Strickland. After reading all of past credentials, I think my first impression was right. I thought he was perfect for this case and he is stellar. Whatever he did, I feel it was an innocent mistake. But a big mistake, especially considering the magnitude of this case. I hope all works out well for him and he continues his brilliant career as a judge in Orlando.