Convicted Felon Casey Anthony…

Val,

Re: the tears…..my thoughts exactly!

Val,

You crack me up! Thanks! Have a great day!

Morning Valhal!! Thanks! Another great article, you are so funny and serious at the same time.
Well, about KC’s tears there is an article on it on Dr. Lillian Glass blog, very interesting to say the least. Here is the link to it, if you allow me:
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/casey-anthony’s-body-language-in-court-reflects-phony-non-tears-fake-sniffles-and-an-empty-apology/
Have a great day!

Hi FRG,

Thanks for the link. I enjoy reading Dr. Glass’s take on these videos. I don’t always agree with her, but I learn something every time she writes. I totally agree the apology was “empty”…but I do believe the tears were real. After all, they were for her favorite person – herself.

She had to state – with no excuses, no disclaimers, no caveats, no equivocation – “I did these wrong things…and I’m sorry.” 

Val

I will be going against the grain here, no doubt, but I have always felt that regardless of the legal consequences of being a convicted felon, that Casey Anthony should have plead guilty to the fraud charges. I thought it would be the best defense strategy. It should have happened sooner, (for Casey’s benefit).

It was foolhardiness combined with hubris to let that case drag on for so long. As you said, first, it was a losing battle, second, it was important to position Casey as someone who COULD take responsibility for wrongdoing. I believe it was monumental. I also feel as though it has softened her image, to an extent. I don’t know why she cried, but this time it was certainly real. As much as I have been irked by some of the opinions of A Lyons, I truly believe that she was highly instrumental in getting Baez and Anthony to accept the futility of taking this to trial. I think Casey MAY have had sincere regret about what she did to Amy. (Whether it was that it put her in hot water, or because now she is friendless, I can’t say. But clearly, this was the first time in her life that she had to accept real consequences)

Perhaps the delays and side diversions into Kronk’s business and the TES records are a way of demonstrating to Casey that they are pulling out all of the stops: but in the end, maybe for the murder trial, all of these actions are “baby steps” to a slow plea, as Hornsby has said.

Maybe the defense and the public could accept a 35-40 year sentence. This way, she’d be past child-rearing years. With several felonies, one can be hopeful that when she gets out, she could never work as a care-giver in nursing homes or in any other capacity for the innocent or helpless.

I know I am going to suffer the wrath of other posters, but there are cases where child killers have gotten significantly less time than what I’ve mentioned. Would Casey be different, with therapy and a long separation from the family? I don’t know. It all depends on where she is on the narcissism continuum , or what her true diagnosis is.

“COMPLETE and FULL” responsibility…” (AaHB-solutely, in all honesty…completely, to the extreme measure of all honesty, I mean it this time and this is my REAL honesty, honestly.)
Yes, when you plead guilty it DOES mean that you are taking responsibility, “complete and full” or not.
“SINCERE” apology… (In all honesty, I mean sincere honesty this time. I”m not lying, honestly. I’m sincere and I really mean it. I really, really do and this is real.)
She was incapable of being a “better” friend because she was and is incapable of being a friend. If there were no such thing as in-store cameras we would not have been privileged to see yesterday’s show. One can easily dream up what would have happened yesterday and who would have been blamed for using Amy’s checkbook…after all, LOTS of people had access to that car, too.
Now, it’s AMY who will be a “BAD friend” when she testifies at the murder trial.

WSH,

I really don’t have any big issues with what you have said. Other than, I don’t believe the regrets she feels toward the whole Amy thing is connected to anything other than she was held accountable for those actions.

To be clear, I’m not hung up on what sentence Casey gets (I’m not sitting here demanding DP, in fact, I believe it a higher punishment for her (taking into account her personality) that she just get to sit and eat jalapeno cheese dip and beef sticks for the next 30 to 40 years, or better yet life). Just as long as she is sentenced in a manner that prevents her being in society for an adequate and appropriate amount of time (that would be until her “virgina” grows closed), I will feel that justice has been served.

» Mimi said: | Edit { Jan 26, 2010 – 07:01:47 }
If there were no such thing as in-store cameras we would not have been privileged to see yesterday’s show.

I 100% agree with this statement. And this is why I 100% commit to eating my hat if that defense team can get Casey to cop a plea on the murder charge. There aint no way, no how she’s going to confess to anything on that one because there is no video footage and so she can continue to live in her delusion.

Like I said – I take a picture of me eating my hat if she confesses to ANYTHING concerning Caylee’s death.

So she was crying yesterday 10 minutes after laughing and giggling over a check fraud case. Yet she was laughing and tossing pens at Jose when her deceased daughter was being discussed. Hmmm

Val, yesterday during that hearing there was something said about the lab not releasing findings on the “latents” yet. Something about having the lab’s lawyers become involved in the whole thing. I might have heard wrong or I might be misinterpreting what I heard. I’m wondering if this can be translated for me because I don’t trust myself as to the meaning on this one at all. It might be just more wishful thinking on my part that there are latent prints that have not been released to public record yet.
I posted it here because it was said during the hearing yesterday. Hope that’s ok and that you can comment.

PS: I’ll help you eat that hat.
No way will she EVER confess.
I can visualize it all interfering with parole many years from now…when convicted murderers won’t confess to their crimes they are considered not rehabilitated and parole is held back.
Even then, she will NEVER confess.

Mimi,

I took it the same way as you. Apparently there exists some forensics concerning latents….else the whole dialogue in court yesterday makes no sense.

Val-

This is pretty interesting.

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-body-language-in-court-reflects-phony-non-tears-fake-sniffles-and-an-empty-apology/

FRG-I didn’t see that you already posted the same link.

i have i different take on caseys apology
to me it was rehearsed and unoriginal – it was her ‘script’ for the day

that apology is one that is probably heard everyday all across the country in courtrooms given by people who stole money from someone

i either wanted to hear more from her or nothing at all

to me it was not genuine

Tears? Only for herself.
Socipoaths have no feelings, no conscience and it’s all about themselves.
This may very well have been the one and only time in her life that she admitted to anything she has ever done. Mommy always covered for her. I almost waited to hear
Cindy shout out . “Stop….do you hear ME? Stop badgering my daughter now, because it’s AMY’S FAULT for leaving her checkbook in her damn car.”

So now with the “Mother of the Year Award” from Cindy, and George’s statement that
“any father would be proud to have a daughter like Casey”, we can now add FELON OF THE YEAR.

I wonder if Cindy has sealed Casey’s room as another ‘shrine’ .

Val, your { Jan 26, 2010 – 07:01:26 } gave me a mental image I could have lived without….

» Christine said: | Edit { Jan 26, 2010 – 08:01:55 }

I almost waited to hear
Cindy shout out . “Stop….do you hear ME? Stop badgering my daughter now, because it’s AMY’S FAULT for leaving her checkbook in her damn car.”

The camera didn’t show Cindy so for all we know George had her in a half-nelson and Brad had his fist in her mouth.

I read on another blog that CA mouthed the B word at the prosecutor…Im still trying to find a video that confirms…

Agreed the apology was scripted and insincere, wasn’t expecting it any other way..the tears I believe start out fake (wiping non existant tear from cheek during fake apology) and then actually become real when she states “I should have been a better friend” Yes, I believe these are absolute real tears she is crying for herself because she just can’t believe shes actually has to recite these words about Amy almost AS IF Amy were right and she were wrong…Pfffft imagine that! MOST INTERESTING thing I read on Dr. Glass’s site was Casey mouthing the words “i’m excited” NO WAY! Did anyone else catch this?

Although she has been convicted of these felonies she doesn’t really get to feel the ramifications because she is already in jail and she doesn’t have to feel the eyes on her. Amy was a friend and I don’t believe JB (BJ) will seriously attack Amy with having a motive to testify against poopy pants because to do so will open the door to what the whole world knows, she was caught and not on candid camera, but on survillence tape.

Her tears appeared genuine for herself and the words coming out of her mouth were unfamiliar, poor Caylee will never get to see tears from her mother…this hurts me and many to know that. Does anyone wonder if KC cries for Caylee on her anniversary of death and on what day? June 9th, June 15th, June 16th? This is a question someone should ask JB (BJ).

When Dr. Lillian Glass mentioned that Casey looked “excited” when she came through the courtroom doors, that verified my feeling that Casey is a thrill criminal. I think she got a thrill out of snuffing out the life of Caylee and that’s why she could just coldly stuff her dead toddler’s body in a garbage bag and toss it in her car trunk then drive off to her date with Tony. In the Blockbuster surveillance video of Casey renting videos with Tony she is again excited, smiling and holding his hand showing no sign that she just murdered her child and the body is rotting in her car trunk. She relives the thrill of her crime as she watches a video of a man murdering people and putting the body in her car trunk. She has an “excited” look on her face as she gropes women at a hot body contest while Caylee is still rotting in her trunk. When she finally can’t stand the smell of Caylee’s rotting body and dumps the garbage bag in the woods and abandons the car, she text messages Amy that she just got rid of the dead squirrels that were stinking up her car. Dumping the body gives her a thrill also. She is still on her thrill ride when she writes for Cindy’s benefit July 7 on her Myspace Page, “What can be given can be taken away. Everybody lies, everybody dies.” She looks excited on the surveillance video at Target as she buys beer, a bra as Baez says, sun glasses and her hoodie while stealing money from George and Cindy’s credit card and cleaning out Amy’s bank account. She continues the excitement as she parties hardy and gets her tattoo Beautiful Life. When the police question her she is still excited as she takes them on a wild goose chase to find Imaginanny and recites her various lies about Zanny, Juliette, Jeff and Zachary and how Caylee called her that very day. When she is out on bond, she continues her thrill ride with playing the sunglass game with her handsome mail bounty hunter body guard, high fiving her brother and giggling to her female guard that they love her in jail and she wants to sell autographed pictures of herself and go on the Howard Stern Show. Now the thrill of actually performing in court that she is the repentant friend excites her. To Casey, it is all a fun roller coaster ride with her getting national media attention. Thrill killers love getting credit for their crimes. Casey took credit for stealing Amy’s money. It was another thrill. She loves the thrill of her attorneys coddling her and the cameras on her in the courtroom. She finally is famous, as she said of Myspace she always wanted to be.

Hear ye, Hear ye! Time to confess an addiction: I signed on and went straight to the HinkyMeter, NOT the worklog or emails! Val, COULD NOT wait to get your take on yesterday’s activities and WOW, am right there with ya!

WHS: SO on the money about Andrea! IMO, between LKB and AL, Baez got squeezed into this action NOW as in finally, the “girls” made him see the light! The regret Casey has: perhaps that she was caught too soon before another scheme to make it right with Amy could have been perpetrated and then this would have “gone away” and she would be BFF for a bit longer. On the “time served” issue, it has been discussed that the punishment is to address the societal victim group, in this case filicide, so keeping her in prison until her eggs turn to powder would work in the eyes of some! (NOT ME!)

AND….I so want to “see” the 10% unreleased material that the prosecution has waiting for trial!

lol Joy….Ya think there is a 12-step for us?

Half on topic, half off. Tears were real, but only for herself as she could not lie and make up halftruths and plead her bs to the judge. Now I can’t believe that the defence is truly going with the kronk did it. I didn’t know lawyers could play detective and pick a player out in a case to pin the murder rap om someone else. Isn’t there some legal issues here that you cannot do that unless LE takes them in as a suspect? I travel some very rural roads where a body could easily be dumped. I swear after this I would think twice about reporting seeing a body. I think this is just scary.

By the way besides Casey coming into court smiling like she was going to accept some kind of award, I nearly fell off the couch when Baez suggested bonding her out and then it can easily be made to go away. His laughing just turned my stomach. No wonder Casey behaves the way way she does in court, because her own lawyer makes it all seem like a joke. I am surprised that Judge Strickland just ignored his comment about the bond. I really thought he was going to say something like “That was inappropriate Mr. Baez”. Or my personal choice would have been “Mr. Baez you are an idiot, sit down and shutup”.

“Mr. Baez you are an idiot, sit down and shutup”.

LMAO! Why can’t us common folk get some of our dreams fulfilled?

Can someone tell me where I can watch the court hearing of the check fraud? I missed it yesterday and want to see what Dr. Glass is talking about. Thank you

Thank you, Hicky. You expressed my feelings too.

WSH, I agree. I could sense an immediate softening (on the blogs at least) yesterday. I’m not sure it will be a lasting effect however.

Mimi, I don’t know if you read Blink but she still states (and has all along) that they have prints.

1/25/10 hearing part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/22335740/index.html
1/25/10 hearing part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/22335862/index.html

My take on some things…

When Casey walked into the courtroom, I believe she smiled at her parents. That has not happened since what, February of last year?

Casey choked up in her apology, I don’t think she cried there at all. But when she turned around to go back to her table, she looked at her parents and that is when she burst into tears.

No tears for Amy, only for herself.

I Just wanted to comment that I did not see any real tears. KC seems to me to be the sort who resorts to crying/fake crying when she is suffering uncontrollable anger or embarrassment.
I certainly hope she does not wear her hair in a ponytail for the murder trial and that one of her idiot handlers realizes that given the fact that Caylee’s remains still held a matted ponytail another hairstyle would be in order. On second thought, maybe she should keep the ponytail throughout the trial or at least the days where the jurors view the pictures of that precious girl’s remains complete with ponytail.
I bet we may see some real tears after this trial regardless of whether they give her life or death but again those will only be tears of anger. I know she is presumed innocent and this is MOO.
Great Blog Val! I too am becoming an addict and always enjoy the comments here.

Gee …if she cries this hard over her check fraud case, can you imagine the well of tears she will shed during the murder trial. This is going to be very difficult for her and her piece of Kleenex.

I have been sitting on the fence regarding the death penalty but this case is truly trying my sense of sensibilities.
One thing I know for sure is that Psychopaths, or if you prefer Sociopaths cannot be cured…..there is a definite brain abnormality….. proven by Dr. House ; )
Life without parole will be a cake walk for Casey, she doesn’t have to work, has all the money she needs, constant attention, three squares a day and a whole prison full of people that she can manipulate.
Death is the only thing that would terrify her and I am sure the nightmares would begin once sentenced.
I may be wrong and perhaps Thom can correct me but I have heard that women’s prison is a lot more tolerant of Filicide.

» Valhall said: { Jan 26, 2010 – 08:01:12 }

Mimi,

I took it the same way as you. Apparently there exists some forensics concerning latents….else the whole dialogue in court yesterday makes no sense.

Thanks for answering. Howz-bout this idea: Maybe releasing this info would prejudice too much against the darling and interfere with a fair trial? I’m gonna keep right on hoping.

From what I saw of KC’s apology it was totally insincere and she was having a hard time getting the words out … she turned me off right away with “full AND complete” responsibility … I said, her we go, Anthony-speak … the more adjectives you use, the more true it sounds … then she says “better friend” … WTH? Her apology to Amy was inappropriate and to me something you would say if you borrowed a sweater and got a stain on it !! “Better friend” ??? Well she couldn’t have been a WORSE friend … how about “I’m so sorry for what I did to you, the trouble I’ve caused you and betraying your trust” ?? ANY of those words would have sounded more sincere …

I believe her tears where real, but not about what she had done … nope, to me they were saying “I’m sorry, I said I was sorry, no big deal, and boo hoo please don’t punish me I promise not to do it again” I believe this is how she’s always gotten out of any responsibility for her actions.

And what’s up with all the coddling Andrea? It’s a fraud charge … geeze … what’s so hard about admitting you stole ??

Lyon obviously has been obviously been coaching Casey so that she doesn’t sound and look like the guilty sociopath she is. I about fell off my chair yesterday when Casey spoke in the high voice of a school girl that matched her pony tail and drab clothing. Gone was the bored gum smacking monotone we heard on the 911 tape, the robotic “the last person I saw my daughter with was Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez” voice we heard on the sheriff’s interrogation tapes, the F bombing, demanding Tony’s phone number “What a Waste” rant we heard on the jailhouse phone call, the “My life has been taken away from me and I wanna go home” cold nasty tantrum we heard on the August jailhouse visit and the nonchallant gum smacking laughing and chatting about surveilance cameras, the media and law enforcment that we heard on the FBI tapes after she was arrested for first degree murder.

Thanks for the excellent post. I am a first time reader and poster. I do agree that Casey was expecting Cindy to jump up and save the day. The tears are silly, IMO….she wishes she ‘was a better friend’..all I could think was – I wish you’d been a better mother, just a better person, period. I know this is stating the obvious.

There is something that’s bothered me for a long time. What about Mark Hawkins? Where is his deposition/interview? IMO, he may be a key player as Casey was texting him regularly, wanted to visit him to tell him something..etc. My little theory has been that Casey wanted to visit him to disappear…start a new life and never be heard from by family again…JMO…

One thing that was promising was the comment about latent print information still not on the table. I’ve always felt that Casey was way too lazy and self absorbed to think about things like that. She is no clever, calculating killer and I just couldn’t believe she got that lucky. If those prints are there, then maybe the unbelievable will happen, a plea. A long shot but you never know when death is the option.

I like your style of writing and look forward to reading more. Thanks for any response. Lori

» Bees Knees said: { Jan 26, 2010 – 10:01:02 }

Thank you, Hicky. You expressed my feelings too.

WSH, I agree. I could sense an immediate softening (on the blogs at least) yesterday. I’m not sure it will be a lasting effect however.

Mimi, I don’t know if you read Blink but she still states (and has all along) that they have prints.

BEES~~Well, I’ve been thinking this all along, too, a bunch of us discussed it right up to “empty” on another blog…decided that we had to wait until trial to learn the truth. Reason: They took George’s , Cindy’s and Lee’s prints to compare and then said it was no match. Then they said, in the same release of info/documents, that there were no latents. (I might have the wording wrong but the idea is correct.) They were very “could be read like THIS” and “could be read like THAT” about that whole latent print statement of findings that they made. (I just preferred to read it like THAT, is all.)
But, bottom line to me has always been: You don’t need to take prints and compare to no prints at all. Of course, they didn’t say anything about taking Casey’s prints (they had her paw prints from early on.) They didn’t say anything about comparing Casey’s prints either…but it’s fair to say that they would not compare the prints of the lower management folks of the company yet, not the CEO. We also don’t hear of any other comparisons by any other prints of any other players.
For example, luckily, they didn’t compare Kronk’s prints at least that we’ve heard. I sure hope that poor man used only his picky-pokey-meter-stick to nudge that bag in the woods.

We can all agree that Casey deserves punishment. We can mostly agree that she is some sort of female “List” personality (eraser killer, family killer, etc.) and that she is likely mostly sorry for herself instead of the impacts of her crimes on others. We can’t know the exact personality mix that she has since that takes intensive testing and interactions in a therapeutic setting, so we can only guess how much remorse she is capable of (if any) and what brings her psychiatric pain in all of this. We can only guess what punishment will have the most effect on her, if any will.

It could be that she sincerely felt pain over the actions with respect to Amy momentarily or that she is continuously feeling this type of pain or that she feels no pain whatever in this regard. We simply can’t know without much more intel on her.

Death might scare her or she might welcome it. A long prison term may terrify her or it might mean less than a hangnail to her. Our pronouncements on the depth of her guilt and depravity or on the genuineness of her tears and being sorry have more to do with us as individuals than her reality. In the end, she will be punished in some fashion and it will not make up for what occurred and some people will be satisfied and others will not be satisfied.

Hopefully, some modicum of justice will finally be achieved for Caylee Marie and for society at large… Hopefully, there will be some sense of closure when this is all over and done with. I have my doubts though, from my personal experience….

I feel that the ONLY reason KC cried was because she already was told by Judge Strickland directly that she is a born liar! He said KC and the truth are strangers and she already knows his opinion of her. She looked as if though she wanted to elaborate on her reasoning and NO ONE wants to hear anymore of her lies, especially the Judge.

He didn’t cut her any slack with the rulings of the check fraud matter, on the contrary he seems to agree with the state and IMO feels that the State has left no rock unturned in any of this saga. He wants a trial date, and he isn’t going to entertain JB (BJ) any longer with his stupidity. Doesn’t stupid realize that this is serious? and if by some huge miracle KC were to get out now someone would kill her and deprive the whole country, possibly the world of hearing her get sentenced to a date with a needle. Cindy has to have some sense of satisfaction since she could have so easily done the same thing Amy did, and pursued JUSTICE. Caylee did you hear the Judge? your day is coming and so many of us are rallying for it so that your sick mom can finally be responsible to and for you before she dies.

Very funny Val!
WSW – You mentioned KC doesn’t have any friends. Do you know most of her mail at the jail is positive and supportive? That’s a fact. Men will do anything hoping to get laid.

Val – about videos. Has it been ruled the video of KC’s reaction to the finding of “a child’s body” not be allowed in court?

Also Judge Strickland will not accept that Kerley evidence because in order to do so he would have to convince himself of something he knows as fact KC killed Caylee. He doesn’t have time for this and I pray that if anything he gets a good laugh at this and he shares it as a scarey story to maybe his grandkids.

IMO Judge Strickland’s response to ALL of this will be professional and direct and he will slap these morons for defaming an innocent man.

Another great article Val…
I don’t care if Casey gets the DP or life, just as long as she is found Guilty. The DP sounds to easy, and she would be away from the general population who might give her a taste of her own medicine. Life might be the better way to go with her. Let her think about that beautiful baby girl she killed for the next 60years.
On another note…Just saw Lovely Bones, and came right home to check on my kids. What is this world coming to? Hug your children & teach them that they don’t always have to be polite, especially if someone is making them uncomfortable.

One of the issues that just keeps popping back into my mind during all of this nonsense, Zanny took Caylee, no Jesse is involved, No it’s Ricardo or Amy, No Jesse, Viola it’s that Roy Kronk fellow…. is that from one of the first day’s Casey was home from jail, in front of Tracey M., Casey said with a sarcastic lilt “They haven’t even found her clothes yet”. WTH. So, the clothes were “planted” as a clue to the kidnapping? That was a very telling “slip” of Casey. IMHO

Great article Val!

I agree, the tears were actually real this time, for the second time.

I thought the tears would start flowing when JB stated that his client is “an unpopular character”. Those words had to sting a person such as KC…

IMO In the end all we can hope for is Caylee’s murderer gets punished harshly. But it seems like the things a lot of us want to see happen, never will.
Casey will never break down and beg for forgiveness for killing Caylee.
Baez will never be professional and have a grasp on how to wisely defend kc.
Cindy will not suddenly become polite or recognize the situation or acknowledge kc’s guilt.
George will never be able to man up and paint an accurate portrait of the family, the money coming in is way too easy.

KC begins really crying harder after she is dismissed by the Judge and tells them to take her seat. The reason for this is because she apologized and he did not have anything to say to her except thank you and business as usual. She is so use to having the last word with her past stealing, and this theft is her last one for life. I bet she wishes she could have spent the last $250.00 on a detailed car wash!

Love your blog Val!
This is the first time I have posted, but have been reading here for quite some time. Everyone is so articulate & well spoken here. Although I have to admit that some of the blogs would go right over my head without Val ‘dumbing it down’ a bit. lol.
I too agree that Casey was crying genuine tears yesterday – but only for herself as usual. And they sure didn’t last very long did they. It was only a matter of a couple of minutes before she was back to laughing with her old pal Jose.
The murder trial cannot come soon enough for me, and I am sure you all feel the same way. I personally hope she does not get the death penalty – that is far too easy an out for her. She wanted her freedom so badly that she killed her precious baby girl for it; therefore I think the best punishment would be for her to never have any freedom at all.

Someone mentioned earlier that the DUfense hopes to keep this trial on hold so that people and witnesses may forget, I would like to say that I for one will never forget Caylee she is always in my thoughts and prayers, and no one that is involved in his case Tony, Amy etc., have been exposed to a tragedy and they will never forget what was done to them by befriending this POS. Those wounds will be everlasting and I feel that these victims will always scrutinize all people who they come into contact with, or befriend. Tony especially, he made his opinion of wanting only boys, I believe if God blesses him down the round with a lil girl he will treasure her so much more because of this POS.

I am also certain that everytime either of these victims see a little girl they will naturally reflect on Caylee. So if it takes 2-3-4-5 years no one will forget. The dumbfense can forget, but can they really?

Yes…a convicted felon indeed! One day closer to justice for Caylee Marie Anthony.
Another great article, Valhall.

I re-watched the hearing this morning and noticed one thing I had NOT noticed yesterday: At the wftv website, part 2, min marker 1:30, Casey is LAUGHING with Baez as she is hiding behind her shamwow, uhm..I mean tissue. I was appauled by this, and it just confirms my opinion that yesterday was nothing more than a rehearsed speech with fake crying written by A. Lyons for Casey.

I also thought that when Cindy lipsynched to George “I love you” at pt. 2, min. marker 4:00….that George’s response, or should I say lack of, spoke VOLUMES. It was odd too how Cindy kept looking at him waiting for a response that never came. Way to go Cindy, class act, lipsynching words of endearment to your husband while your daughter sits in shackles just a few feet away. This family is beyond dysfunctional. And where’s ole Lee been at?? hmmm….he’s being laying low for the past few months, wonder why.

I think Casey said something about her nose and then laughed. It doesn’t matter, it was totally inappropriate. And I also think that George did tell Cindy I love you in return but was turning his away from her while doing so and then clenches his jaw and takes a deep breath, all the while Cindy is watching him intently. I guess Cindy was looking for a little “me” time during the hearing.

Lorna, about the defense forgetting Caylee. I don’t think they have “seen” her from the beginning. I think, to them, this is all about Casey, not about Caylee. They are looking into the future and seeing books, movies, deals and reputations. It will never be about Caylee…if it was they would never have involved themselves in this case. I realize all defendants deserve council, but I have to believe that even defense attorneys have a conscience.
As to all the others involved, however unwittingly, I feel so sorry for them. Casey has most likely taken from them the most basic trait of human nature….trust. They will never be the same. Casey should be made to pay for any counseling they want or need. How can they return to a normal life? Can they just shrug it off? I doubt it.

This is such a wonderful site ~ hits the nail on the head time after time and with humor that lifts my spirits out of the basement of despair for baby Caylee and her unrepentant blood relatives. I believe the plea deal was the idea of Andrea Lyon who has actual plans to groom this defendant for presentation at murder trial. Stand still, look straight ahead no matter what is said about you, recite your apology, cry at the end. Jose looked like he was having his own snit fit – thought he could do some Perry Mason last minute trick at a trial or something.

“I wonder if Tony’s watching? Ooh, better fix my hair…again.”

The sickest moment in the hearing for me, came not from Ms. Anthony, but from her inept lawyer. The judge and the two sides’ attorneys were discussing how to handle a period of probation, when the felon is already behind bars. They’re going back and forth, back and forth, not coming to any solution, when suddenly Baez makes what he obviously believes is a hilarious, witty remark. He says something to the effect, “Well, Judge, you could just give my client a reasonable bond and that would solve that problem! Hardee-har-har!!” This was absolutely SHOCKING to me…what an idiotic buffoon.

Anybody else notice this exchange?

Robin in Fla: shamwow? Good one!

I hope Silver stops by to opine on Judge Stan’s ruling and sentencing. I’m wondering if the punishment fits the crime, considering the checks were written for $650 (approx). I’m not sticking up for Casey, but just wondering in general if a person deserves so many felonies for stealing that amount, and how Casey’s punishment compares to others on the books. I’m wondering if Casey weren’t Casey, and she wasn’t facing murder charges, would it be likely that she’d be charged with 13 felonies for stealing $650?

Don’t get me wrong, I wish Judge Stan would’ve convicted her on all counts. Not because I think it’s fair, but because Casey IS so “unpopular” – in other words, she deserves everything she gets. Not because she stole money, though. Because she killed her baby.

I think Judge Stan treated her fairly in his sentencing, and I understand that it was legal for the prosecutors to charge her with so many counts. I guess the real issue I have is: Would someone else (who wasn’t already accused of killing her baby) who stole four checks be actually charged with three felonies for each check, plus one felony for grand theft? Please excuse this mess if it’s coming across like something Jose would say, I don’t mean it that way. I know a person who stole her sisters checkbook (in NY) and who wrote $1000 in bad checks (there wasn’t enough $ in the account to cover them) and she was charged with 1 felony for grand theft. She was eligible to be charged for much more, but the prosecutors only charged her with one count. I guess I’m wondering if Casey was charged excessively in the first place, just because she is Casey and everyone wants to see her crash and burn??

Personally I think its a step in the right direction to charge Casey with all 13 counts. All criminals should be charges with whatever they did and not pled down to a lesser charge. How is it fair that a teenager steals my checkbook, writes multiple checks in excess of $750, signs my name and gets charged with a minor misdemeanor? What does that say to future criminals? Do whatever you do and then plead to a lesser charge and get probation? No big deal!

Tug, I might be wrong about this but I’ve heard that women convicted of filicide do NOT do well in female prisons because too many of them are painfully separated from their own children while incarcerated.

Lori, I’ve been curious too about Mark Hawkins. It will be so interesting to hear Casey was going to move out there ALONE? That Grandma & Grandpa were going to raise Caylee?

Mimi, OOOOOHHHHH ~ I wish I’d have been part of your discussion last night! You say, “You don’t need to take prints and compare to no prints at all.” EXACTLY. And to me it is almost impossible that you could use duct tape, cutting/tearing it at least three times without leaving a print? I still haven’t tried it myself but it’s got to be very tricky to do it while wearing gloves. Also the garbage bags. Was she wearing gloves when she removed the garbage from her car and threw into the dumpster? If they can tie her to that garbage it will be ONE MORE fact tying her to Caylee’s body because of the adipocere that was in the bag. Also I think chances might be good on some of Casey’s hair being stuck to the tape. I CANNOT wait for trial to learn of all these remaining questions. Just WHAT exactly composes that remaining 10% that the FBI has??

BTW, Casey cried a total of 90 seconds yesterday. And I’m being generous.

A few people have mentioned the “latent prints” brought up in the courtroom. If I’m not mistaken, didn’t it come out in the releases that one of the lab technicians accidentally handled the duct tape evidence without gloves, and got one or more of her (his?) prints on the tape?

This would explain why the defense would be fighting to get the proof of this “contamination” of the evidence from the laboratory.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Just watched the GA – CA interaction a few more times, I believe GA did respond, you can barely see it as his head is turned. CA seems to be concerned about GA, who is obviously upset.

Also interesting after watching the first half (the statement followed by tears) again, it appears the real tears did not start flowing till KC was back at the table and caught sight of her parents??

Yes, Donna. I sure did notice it. I almost died. Could NOT believe my ears. What a dumb, stupid, thick-headed moron! And did you catch him sagely reminding Judge Strickland (while indicating some motto on the wall) ~ “as what’s written right up above you” (his grammar, not mine). HA HA HA!!!! Baez, you kill me! The gift that keeps on giving. Don’t you think he’s getting worse as this case progresses? He could barely construct simple sentences. Can you imagine him in the murder trial? His already-wide rear end may look even broader when he moves up a couple sizes to accommodate his Depends. He will be a stuttering, tragic fool. I just can’t imagine how Lyin’ feels standing there beside him. I did notice her at one point looking down and behind her hoping for a hole to hide in.

Great Valhall, you answered questions for me, and offered a few chuckles too.

I think Dr. Glass should take another look at the ‘I love you’ words formed on Cindy’s lips, it’s way out of context, we have seen Cindy all too often. Makes no sense to me. My first impression was something else, I’d like another lipreader to take a look, someone who hasn’t had any of the suggestions of what Cindy said. George did not look like someone who was needing an ‘I love you’, maybe from Casey, maybe from the state in the form of withholding adjudication argument to the judge. If someone is consoling someone close, whether they love them or not, they will tell them ‘it will be alright’, or ‘we’ll get through this’ or ‘hang tough, it’s ok’.

I think this is more likely what Cindy did, something like ‘that’s fair’ as she heard the adjudication. George was already holding his temper, would a temper be helped by saying ‘I love you’ as a distraction from the drama in front of them?

Or besides Brad’s fist or George’s necklock, Cindy had popped a few extra meds to help her relax through the trial, and she wasn’t thinking straight.

Or, maybe George was fearful of being alone, his family split, and that could explain an ‘I love you’ as support through that fear. Just seems hinky to me, for Cindy to say something so far away from what was going on in the courtroom.

JB appears to be attempting a Jim Carey impression from the movie Liar Liar does he not? If you watch his expressions and movements while the SA is speaking, one would half expect him to stick out his tongue, or maybe put straws up his nose… dork.

BOO HOO, Casey choked up at the podium during her apology for her actions, because it didn’t go down the way she wanted it to. Casey needed the two way conversations that she is use too. For Example: Judge: Yes, you wanted to say something? Casey: Yes, I want to say I am sorry, but It wasn’t my total responsibility? Judge: Why do you say that Ms. Anthony? Casey: Because I Casey Anthony didn’t steal the checkbook from Amy. Judge: We have you on videotape at Target and Bank of America Ms. Anthony, if that wasn’t you, then who was it? Casey: Well, I wasn’t myself that day, I was Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. Judge: So, you want me to believe that you were Zenaida and therefore not responsible? Casey: In a backwards sought of way. Judge: Ms. Anthony, you are not Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. Casey: I have an I.D., ask my mom, she’s seen it. Judge: Thankyou, Ms. Anthony. Casey: Ouch, Andrea you are holding me too tight, I told the absolutely truth.

Kleat, I thought she said “I told you”

Maybe the silent speech from Cindy to George is yet another form of code in Anthony-speak. Something like: “If ___ happens, then I will silently tell you I love you, and if ____ happens…. ” Well, you get the picture. They were not permitted to have their bat Phones in the Courthouse.

I was reviewing one of George’s early interviews with LE of that very first night of July 15, 2008, wherein he’s detailing calls that he and Cindy keep missing each other – he refers to her as “my spouse” numerous times. Really, George?

Nitasch! “or maybe put straws up his nose… ” ha ha ha ha ha . . . I have the best image of that right now. Thx.

Yeah, you’re right, Kleat. That’s what I thought she said (I love you) but it does seem inappropriate to me too. I’d like to hear another professional weigh in on this as well.

I looked at the video again, where Cindy mouths something to George. It really does NOT look to me like she’s saying “I love you.” Looks more like, “That’s fair”, or something. I’m not an expert lip-reader or anything, but honestly, I don’t see those words being said. JMO.

Another great read Valhall. I agree with most that her statement was very rehearsed and she seemed ‘different’ than she usually does. More alert? Thinner?
But most of all I was left with feeling Baez had to have his arm twisted greatly to go along with this plan of pleading. I think that is why he whined extra about her being unpopular and that she isn’t getting a fair shake. Maybe that is why he came across so unprepared……..
His arogance is too much, that is why he is so unpopular. Ms Lyons definitly had a hand in things.
I have noticed in the past Casey cries after looking towards her parents, they may be a natural trigger for that emotion when playing the victim.

PS For those following Morgan Harrington case in VA, they believe to have found her body today. So sad.

Also, about the possible latent evidence, I believe some folks are saying the #104 of the duct tape did not have the ‘no latents found’ indicator. Is this correct? I believe I read that on blink yesterday. So I am thinking this would be in relation to tape only and not bags? Speculation, I know. Just wondering what you all are thinking.

IMO-Casey didn’t start crying until she looked at Cindy, thinking Mom,why didn’t you speak up for me. Tell them I am innocent, how could you do this to me.
If they do get a movie deal or book deal it will be called the BIG COVER UP. Casey,
Cindy, George, Lee and Baez will all be exposed. Andrea Lyons, well everyone will learn of her and how she let an innocent man spend 25 yrs. of his life in prison for a crime she knew he never committed. I think a better title for a book should be
Tossed Aside the Road and Forgotten.

» Nitasch said: { Jan 26, 2010 – 03:01:54 }
JB appears to be attempting a Jim Carey impression from the movie Liar Liar does he not? If you watch his expressions and movements while the SA is speaking, one would half expect him to stick out his tongue, or maybe put straws up his nose… dork.
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Nitasch lol ….. that was “priceless” yes, he is such a nerd …. lol
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Hey howdy, hey!

Val, there are no words to express my absolute appreciation for all of the time and effort you put into presenting us with the best information available on the net, regarding Casey Anthony, her family, the investigation, forensics, Casey’s most probable psychological profile, and perhaps a greater understanding of just how and why the murder of Caylee occurred, without forgetting to make us smile or reduce us to gut-rolling laughter every once in a while!

Thanks Val! And thanks, also, to Silver, Maura, WSH, Clockwatcher, William, so many, for so contributing to the Hinky Meter that it is, by far, a cut above the rest, and without exception.

There’s much to be read, to catch up on, so I will reserve comment on any particular article but to say this: Casey’s tears, real or feigned? Did she ever, even once, raise her snot rag to her eyes or to her cheeks, as if to dab away tears? I’m a day late and a nickel short, once again, so didn’t watch the hearing before today, but I don’t recall that there were any tears in her eyes, though her NOSE was flowing worse than Niagra Falls! Could it be that she was suffering from an allergic reaction to telling the truth, for a change?

And so what shall I call her now? Mizzzz Poopy Pants or Princess Snot Head? Regardless, I couldn’t care less about whether her tears were real or not, in light of the fact that Caylee is dead, and really really dead, and Momma Psychotic did it. Her tears, be they real or fake aren’t worth a second thought, IMHO.

And having said that, I’m off to send off a pic or two of a most beautiful young woman, who’s pretty much mentally whole, via email — if a couple of you catch my drift.

Hold on to the tissues! If there are latent prints that have not yet been released, Big Shot Baez and Crew will be singing the Blues.

Willow

Thanks Willow.

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» Nitasch said: { Jan 26, 2010 – 03:01:54 }
JB appears to be attempting a Jim Carey impression from the movie Liar Liar does he not? If you watch his expressions and movements while the SA is speaking, one would half expect him to stick out his tongue, or maybe put straws up his nose… dork.
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Nitasch lol …..so true, that was “priceless” yes, he is such a nerd …. lol
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If possible would you clear something up for me and perhaps others? If pre-trial, the defendant pleads guilty does that automatically take the death penalty off the table, or does that have to be an agreement between prosecution and defense? I’ve always thought that it would be automatic.
GOD BLESS CAYLEE

I feel there was much too much talk of laten prints for there not to be any.

As to Cindy not standing up and interjecting:

Well she couldn’t but after the hearing I entered the elevator, Cindy and Geo entered after me, and so did a good deal of media, the last one on was Belich.

Cindy says: If YOUR getting on, i’m getting off.

KB steped aside, cin just stood there.

KB says, did you want off?

Cindy says, I’m claustrophobic.

KB says I’m not do you want off?

Cindy says, no, it’s just common curtesy!

KB stayed on and so did Cindy but she grumbled the entire time.

I guess it was the frustration of have no say in the courtroom,

Personally, I was proud of Cin, she learned a new word…..curtesy! Now if she will only look up the meaning….

Yes, Bees Knees, but what the defense didn’t take into account in their little brainstorming session to pin it on Kronk was that the beautiful Miss Linda has a secret weapon that she rarely unveils, but always has at the ready for fighting evil-doers, long-haired DP angels, and pompous tards who think themselves Hispanic Messiahs…

BEHOLD THE BUNNY BOOK!

(The above pic is a still frame from the conference room meeting both prosecution and defense had with Judge Strickland at the beginning of 2009. The Bunny Book is Linda Drane-Burdick’s notebook and that’s Jeff Ashton looking in awe at the wonderment of the Bunny Book.)

Hahahaha Val that’s priceless.

Thank you for all you do.
I read here every day.

BTW, I think Cindy said: “she loves you” to George.
“She” meaning Casey.

Hummm. “I love you,” huh? Seems to me that Cindy well knew the cameras were focusing in on them, and she seems to be playing up to the camera without directly looking into it.

Valhall!
OMG!!111!! Happy Bunny FTW!

I laughed so hard I scared the cats.

Willow! OMG!! You’re back! (happy dance) Missed you!

No, no, no…..Cindy said “vacuum” as in…suck it up George.

Thanks, Clockwatcher. I’ll try to stay focused well enough to make some sense, though I’m a bit numbminded at the moment thinking such crazy things as, “Beware. Beware! The bearer of the Bunny Book cometh forth to stomp a mudhole ….” YUCK! I just captured a mental picture of that!

I posted this at another site except I feel it more appropriate here. Once I read comments about Casey Commissary fund at the jail. Now that she has been found guilty of a crime and remains behind bars, what happens now? Will she still be able to buy all her treats or will that monies go to paying restitutions?

Hello All…I haven’t had a chance to review the hearing, but I caught a quick look at “Poopy’s” photos. Before I read Lillian Glass’s article, I was creeped out. The snaps of her on the wftv website showed this weird glaze in her eyes. It did creep me out. She looked thrilled, with a twinge of nervousness to me. I truly believe she has no grasp of the reality of her plight. She was absolutely thrilled with “having a moment”. I don’t know if I want to watch her video.

So the judge gave the defense the bone of interviewing Ex Mrs. Kronk. What a big achievement! Guess they have to do something to bill time.

So, since I’m no mathematician….how many jalepeno dips will Casey have to sell to pay off her fine?

I will say this….The Anthonys were completely appropriate in court. They didn’t ask the cameras to focus on them. They didn’t do anything dramatic. It had to be weird for them to have Casey admit to her deeds. Likely that wasn’t a big part of their prior experience either. They didn’t do anything outrageous. I ‘m not a lover of their antics, but I didn’t see a big play for attention. Maybe they are relieved with Casey’s plea.

Are they proving their point; “damned if they do, damned if they don’t”?

I’ll open the discussion: what should they have done in court that would satisfy people who are still enraged from their past behavior? I’m not stirring the pot, I ask sincerely. I am trying my hardest to keep an open mind.

WSH

I think this was the first time they did act apporpriately in court, as I said, I was there and did watch them, they just kinda hung their heads, stayed in their seats and were quiet.

However I don’t expect the same at the murder trial.

I will respond to that, WSH. I have no issue whatsoever with the Anthonys’ behavior in court. They appeared to be restrained and respectful of the proceedings. Short of me hearing they had to muzzle Cindy in order to keep her quiet, I think they acted appropriately.

I don’t think it’s important to the matter at all what Cindy mouthed to George or how he felt about it when she did it. That’s their own personal issue.

That’s just my opinion.

“That’s their own personal issue.”

I agree Val.

BTW, You are classy.

T2M,

Thanks for sharing the up- close perspective. I guess we will see what happens.

WSH, I noticed that the cameras did not pan to them often, which means there was little to see. I did notice when George gave Cindy the kleenex that she turned to him, but facing the cameras and said Thank you at first, then turned back to him and said I love you. George made some sort of face and Cindy turned back twice I believe to see if he would reply to her. She knew the cameras were on her and I believe the reason that she did that was of all the stories of her cheating with Dominic and Georges supposedly internet searching for escort ladies. I think she wanted everyone to know that they are thicker than ever. (We’ll see when the trial is over). No, it was nothing dramatic, but again was it necessary. Your daughter is on trial for fraud. Speaking of the Anthony’s where was brother Lee. This was to me a big deal. After the memorial and CMA, CMA, I would have thought he would have been there to support his sister.

I think they Anthony’s have been told over and over again to tone down their theatrics, I also believe that they read the blogs, so they know the histronics are not working for them, but it is very hard on Cindy not to play up to the cameras as seen today.

We’ll see how long before they are back in front of the cameras on one of the news shows. JMHO

“Short of me hearing they had to muzzle Cindy in order to keep her quiet, I think they acted appropriately.”

That is pretty funny. Your threshold isn’t set very high. Sorry I missed this before. LOL!

Still, they weren’t bad.

Actually, I don’t pay much mind to the Anthony’s behavior in the courtroom, with the exception of Casey, whose behavior I find so rather interestingly bazaar. I don’t expect Cindy nor George to “burst forth” with any sort of comment or condemnation during any of these proceedings short of the verdict. That’s when I believe she/they will “lose it”. Most certainly at sentencing.

» Joan (Canada) said: { Jan 26, 2010 – 08:01:56 }

I know Joan. But it isn’t germane to the case ( maybe peripherally, but not directly). They are stripped bare. Why do we care what they whisper? It isn’t testimony. Whether it is real, or not, it is their consequence and pain. What does it mean whether or not Cindy really loves George?
Other than how it affected Casey? They have to awake each morning and face what really is.
If they aren’t interfering or obstructing justice, or causing a scene, who should care if it is a delusion, act, or not?

I think Lee is done. He probably loves his sister, but took enough of a beating. He seems emotionally fragile, I don’t think he wants any more exposure. I think he’s toast….Another casualty.

WSH, True, today’s did not really matter to the case, but, their previous actions have as they have obstructed justice, lied, omitted to hand over evidence to LE, so yes, although they may have acted without too much drama today, although you could see Cindy chomping at the bit when they discussed deposing Kronk’s ex, nodding her head and saying yes,I’m afraid I cannot give them the benefit of the doubt. I will wait to see what will transpire within the next couple of days. The e-mails that transpired between Cindy and Dominic re: Kronk, the accusing of everyone except her daughter, the Grunds, Richardo, Amy, the thankless to everyone who helped look for Caylee, these are the things that I have alot of trouble with.

I do hope that they will change, but I’m sorry WSH, I just don’t see it happening.

I have 2 daughters and 3 grandchildren. It would devastate me should something happened to one of my grandchildren and if one of my daughter was a suspect, I would continue to love her, but would hope that she would stand up and take responsibily for her crimes. I would in no way enable her with lying and hiding things. I would work with LE as much as needed and would be darn thankful for any help that I could get. I would certainly not set up a foundation for my grandchild within 2 months and I would definitely go and see my daughter in jail, when possible and I would like to see someone tell me I could not go, media of no media.

Joan (Canada), what you are saying you would do, is exactly what I would do too. I totally agree with you. I’m in Canada too, Edmonton area. You?

per lee’s state deposition testiomony——–he was given 60 days off ( from july 2008)—–and has been back at work ever since. (sept. 2008)

i don’t know if this is his reason for not showing up at court ?

in the early days—–i quite honestly thought lee was after the truth—–he even told casey in the 1st jail call ” the truth don’t hurt”…

since then of course everything has been all over the place——but—since his depo with the state——have we heard lee? ( seen, yes, on the cruise—–but has he spoken ?)

i still keep holding out that he WILL be the one to stand up and do the right thing for caylee. ( i hoped in the beginning that george would be the one, due to his LE and FBI testimony—–but evidently cindy has since toldgeorgewhattosay..)

..lj.

I’m surprised the puppet master (Spinthony) didn’t stand up in court yesterday and yell “Caylee wouldn’t have wanted this”…

That’s about the only lying bs I have not heard from her (unless I’ve missed it), in trying to convince everyone that we have it all wrong…

“Since there’s a dog, there must be a nanny” (infamous words for future crime books).

karen lee—–just south of you–red deer—if you’re ever in town…….

winterbelle:

..if there’s a dog—-must be a nanny
..if there’s a nanny–must be a job/to require said nanny
..if there’s a nanny–must be a zanny–b/c KC said so!
..if there’s a zanny- must be a zenaida–b/c KC said so!
..if there’s a zenaida-she must have an apt/house/to take child to.
..if she has an apt/house—must have room mates/to afford house pymt.
..if she works for free-buys child clothes etc–must be super n/zanny!
..if she exists—–she must have parents.
..if those parents exist–they pay house AND silver focus car pymts!( since nanny works for free!)(while buying food, clothing, shoes etc. for the child n/zanny watches).
..if jeff hopkins/son zach exist—-for some unknown reason—they’re laying low.
..if co-worker juliet lewis exists—–she doesn’t want $$$’s to say so.
..if, if, if……..kc never seems to think beyond the next IF……

..wonder what she’ll be thinking–IF i choose LWOP or DP…..

Just WHAT are those ‘bumps, balls, mounds” (or whatever one calls them), on each side of Casey’s forehead? It appears that some type of ‘growth’ is about to protrude through her skull…

Am I the only one that notices this, or am I merely ‘picking Casey apart’ (as Spinthony say’s the public is inclined to do)?

Devilwiththebluedresson looks as if she may be growing some horns in that there forehead…

WSH

I think the A’s were just fine in court, I think that the reality of the situation is slowly sinking in and after the cruise, hopefully, they might have learned that it is time to humble themselves and accept the fate their daughter is facing, I don’t care about what Cindy said to George she could of said “I left the coffe pot on” who cares, it is not about the A’s anymore it is all about justice for Caylee the one they forgot about…

When we keep talking about them their EGO’s just grow, it is time to quit talking about the A’s they are junk plain and simple and their lil 15 mins is about over.

http://www.wesh.com/video/21715134/index.html

this is why RK just is in no way a suspect IMHO

What is with all of the scrutiny over what Cindy whispered to George and if it was “I Love You” that it was inappropriate? Huh? I sure hope my spouse would say that to me if we were going through such a difficult time!

WSH is right, they’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

True, about Lee and his job… he said they gave him a fair amount of time off and he either had to get back to it or leave. That and with being potentially suspected of fathering his own niece I’m sure was plenty to make him go low-pro.

Lee took time off for the cruise, one would think he would have taken the day off to support his sister, looks as though taking a few days off for a breif vacation on a cruise ship was more important than taking one day off to go to court to support his sister
We all know ca and ga have interjected themselves anytime they could with their opinions and revelations, i think ca’s ‘olive juice’ commment was aimed directly at the cameras, to try to instill in the viewing audience that ca and ga are a united loving family, frankly i was shocked to see it, and there was no doubt in my mind that she did in fact say ‘i love you’ and i’m no lipreader. like someone said upthread the more appropriate thing to say while your sitting in court supporting your daughter would be ‘it’ll be allright’ or ‘it’s okay’ but that’s just me, i wouldn’t care so much about this comment if ca and ga had laid low for the last year and a half but with them, it’s all about appearances and i think with all the chatter about infidelity in that marriage and ca’s harsh personality, it was meant to convey something else, anything these folks do doesn’t ring genuine to me there’s always purpose behind their actions
i saw a bump on casey’s forhead too, only on one side, could this be a tumor growing? could it have affected her to the point of creating personality disorders? or did she just get thumped in jail? I dunno but i’ve never noticed it before and noticed it right away the other day.

Well. Though I am not ready to abandon the possibility that Cindy was playing up to the camera, perhaps even to the point of making certain the viewing public knew that love yet exists and remains between herself and her husband, in light of the fact that there’s been much speculation regarding the state of their marriage, I will concede that whatever relationship there is between them is and should remain, their own private business.

Having put myself in Cindy’s shoes, as best I am able and if but for a moment, it wouldn’t have been so unusual for me to have offered a reassuring glance, a nod and a whisper to a husband who couldn’t have been but distraught to have heard, and so over and over again, how unpopular his daughter was and how it was that she was about to admit to guilt for a crime(s) that both Cindy and George looked upon as some minor infarction rather than the criminal act it was, and with the obvious intention under which this/these crimes were committed. For her own self-serving gain, Casey Anthony did, knowingly and willfully, deprive Amy of that which was rightfully her own, and no matter their friendship, as Casey can not truly be a friend to any one. The Anthony’s have to own that, now.

Due to the evidences at hand, neither George nor Cindy could do anything to get her out of that mess, and these are people who are not well used to having their hands tied behind their backs when it comes to making excuses for and even exonerating their daughter, as has been proven when the whole matter of the money she had taken from her aged grandmother was so quickly swept beneath the rug, the tens of thousands of dollars run up on Cindy’s credit cards, etc. “She paid it back. So what’s the big deal?” has always been Cindy’s response.

I believe that the Anthony’s are just beginning to realize what a really “big” deal all of this is, now, and perhaps it’s bearing down hard, and hard enough for Cindy to have muttered a few words in an effort to assure her most fragile husband — and yes, I do yet believe that George is fragile, though Cindy will not allow him to crumble. In the fog of her own psychosis — whatever that may be — it’s more than important to her to “save face” and I feel that she will do whatever is neccessary to ascertain that George follows her script, whatever that may entail. Hummm, that Cindy may be a bit narcissistic herself does play upon my mind.

Who and what has George but Cindy? And so what of all of the money they may be making off of the bones of their grandchild that were so scattered. No amount of money can buy peace of mind, and I do so well imagine that their minds, hearts and souls will forever be so deeply troubled, and should they ever forget — well, they’ve their fine tattoos to serve as reminders.

Willow.

Disco, the Anthony’s are a big part of this case as far as I am concerned, Yes, I hope this is finally becoming clear to them that this is not a game, but I don’t believe that they have changed. I pray that they have but one day in court does not prove it to me.

As for Lee, cruise or taken a day off to support your sister? Sorry, again JMHO

Personally, I don’t care what the Anthony’s do either, they have already cast their fate, and I don’t think it’s going to be a good one.
I was more surprised that Cindy was allowed to hand Casey a tissue, I think it was mentioned on somewhere else.
My limited experience with the court system, there is no way they would allow anyone to hand a prisoner anything. I’ve seen them drag an offender off to prison and not allow them a moment to say goodbye to their family, let alone hand them something that might be dangerous.
It seems like even the courts bend over backwards for Casey sometimes. How will she ever learn, and mature, if she is constantly allowed “special” privaleges??? She should be in general population in jail by now, instead of seperated like she’s a Princess Poopy Pants.
Maybe if she was in general pop, they (other inmates) could explain a few things to her, like her bleak future in a Florida Prison. Florida is known for having some of the U.S. worst prison’s . She isn’t doing Federal time, like Martha Stewart. Florida prison’s are hard time. And I’m not advocating any violence towards’ Casey. Just a good example that she won’t be “special” other than in angering inmates who have had to leave children in Foster Care while they serve their time. Yet killing her child to live “La Bella Vita” or whtever it says.

Lisah,

The bump on her head, huh? Might it not be that even as such a spoiled rotten child would, she banged her head against the wall in opposition to admitting guilt? Could she have pounded her head upon the floor hoping to gain sympathy, undeserved?

I once watched in horror as my narcissistic husband smashed a 3×5 half-inch thick sheet of glass all over a sleeping toddler. To take the focus off of our child who had to be plucked up out of the shattered chunks and jagged shards, he proceeded to pick the glass up with his bare hands, and was cut deeply, spilling blood, and as he bled he looked up at me, presented his palms, wept and said, “Look, I’m bleeding. Poor me.”

No. She’s no brain tumor. If she had bumps on her head they are the result of a tantrum.

Willow

I thought that it was a hairstyle? Like the back hair was pumped up or something?

Joan,

You are absolutely correct in so stating that the Anthony’s are a big part of this case. They are witnesses to many a fact, such as the state of the car and the trunk of that car and what measures they took to clean out the car, as well as they are witnesses to and victims of the countless lies that Casey told regarding the whereabouts of Caylee for actually some what, 7 months? (Until she was found). They are both witnesses and potential defendants, if one considers they may well be charged with such things as obstruction of justice. The list just goes on and on.

Yep. They are a vital part of all of this big, fat, mess.

WSH,

LOL!!! That’s it! You’ve solved yet another mystery! They ratted her hair all up to cover the bald spots that are the result of her obsessively twirling her locks! Poor hair. ‘It could only take so much of Casey’s sheer vain glory.

Interestingly while watching Casey raise her right hand I noticed her little (pinky) finger was crooked. I remember my husband telling me a long time ago about his friend who was a thief (and shady character) had a crooked little finger and somewhere he had read that means you’re a thief. So I looked it up. The second paragraph pretty much nails Casey.

A bowed, C-shaped, little finger represents fragmentation in the personality.1 This is usually due to being exposed to a mother who is bitter, angry, vituperative, and sometimes filled with wrath and near rage. Although the anger may not have been directed at the infant, the infant was not mature enough to deal with such outbursts and was consequently traumatized. The baby from a few weeks to a few months old can subconsciously absorb darkness from the mother at the time when the personal identity is developing and have personality fragmentation. When the mother is in the darkness of the Cosmic System, the child is in the evil of the shadow of darkness.

The child who absorbed the deprecation from the mother can grow into an adult with an inherent loss of self-esteem. Part of self would be missing in the adult, who would be unable to connect to himself. The adult would gravitate between two extremes with one side exhibiting extreme selfishness and the other extreme self-sacrifice. One side would hold onto all that is theirs and be unwilling to share to the extent of rejecting others, while the other side would be extremely self-sacrificial and pour oneself out in service to others. These two extremes could even be directed toward the same person. And the extremes easily link with jealousy, which has a high-swing self-righteousness and a low swing bitterness. The person could be driven to fulfill his own jealous desires while being bitter, angry, and insensitive toward others. This could lead to criminality, robbery, and rape. The extremes can also link with the duplicity of the Double Headline or Double Loop fingerprints. The permanently disfigured, bowed little finger represents the child who tried unsuccessfully to wiggle out from under the deprecating power of the vituperative mother.

http://www.biblenews1.com/hands/handi.htm#Littlefinger

Scroll down to a bowed C shaped little finger.

Convicted felons: rights lost
*Right to vote- Sec.98.313 Fla statutes “requires the supervisor to remove from the registration books the names of convicted felons. . .”
*Right to bear arms
*May get a passport but any country may DENY visas to undesirables
* Convicted felons may regain rights if pardoned by Governor

I went back and looked at other court photos of Casey. Must be a trick of the camera or lighting. Sometimes she’s got bumps and sometimes she “don’t.” They are very apparent at yesterday’s hearing but I think it’s the shape of her skull and not some soft tissue trouble.

Actually, I went into the internet and there are quite a few people complaining about bumps on either side of their foreheads and one person saying that her family makes fun of her and calls them “her horns.” Maybe there is something to Casey’s head shape after all in that it might relate some condition. The sites I’ve checked so far only offer complaints and no answers to their questions about what they are. I’m not a very good researcher but there may be answers out there for those who are. (One person, by the way, said the bumps get bigger when he is nervous or stressed out but he can’t substantiate this other than it is what he has noticed.) No doctor input on any sites I’ve looked at so far.

» Willow said: { Jan 27, 2010 – 08:01:32 }
Joan,

You are absolutely correct in so stating that the Anthony’s are a big part of this case. They are witnesses to many a fact, such as the state of the car and the trunk of that car and what measures they took to clean out the car, as well as they are witnesses to and victims of the countless lies that Casey told regarding the whereabouts of Caylee for actually some what, 7 months? (Until she was found). They are both witnesses and potential defendants, if one considers they may well be charged with such things as obstruction of justice. The list just goes on and on.

Yep. They are a vital part of all of this big, fat, mess.>>

Willow, hear, hear! Add that they have consistently from the beginning, tried to implicate innocent people as the kidnapper…later killer…of little Caylee. This they did in spite of their daughter naming an actual person as perp. Proves to me that they knew from the start that their daughter was the actual perp of whatever happened to Caylee and that there was no nanny of any persuasion.

BTW, Dr. Glass has interesting things to say about Cindy’s way of crying compared to that of Casey’s. Both use a tissue to stab at their eyes and both examine the tissue or their fingers to detect signs of moisture. Like mother like…

All this focus on types of tears isn’t germaine to the proceedings, perhaps, but the only time I have seen women look at their kleenex or fingers after crying is when they are not that distraught that they can’t worry about their mascara running. Usually when a woman is truly upset and crying, she doesn’t require proof of tears and her runny nose and wet cheeks are proof enough to anyone who cares. She usually has to blow her nose somewhere in the teary episode, too.

Okay, if anybody is buddies with Mr. Sheaffer, tell him one of his fans is loving his more relaxed writing style. He’s cracking me up!!!!

http://billsheaffer.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/no-really-what-just-happened/

We have heard over and over that Casey has a good and reasonable explanation for declining to report the disappearance of her 2 1/2-year-old daughter. Well, guess what? At trial there is only one person that can sell that story and that is Casey Anthony. So, if Casey does take the stand, the state attorneys will have all the time in the world to review with her so many fun facts: her numerous, inconsistent statements for starters, possibly the videos of her shopping expeditions and visit to Blockbuster with her boyfriend, and let’s not forget the rock star party photos. Good times. The foregoing topics for cross examination, together with the six felony convictions that she will have to admit, gives a reasonable person cause to believe that Casey might encounter a serious credibility problem. A jury will not believe a thing she says beyond her name and date of birth.

LMAO! Go Bill!

He’s closing line!

So, for all of advocates for justice, yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. And, he has given us the Casey Anthony Defense team. Stay tuned. It’s bound to get more interesting.

I’m laughing so hard my eyes are watering.

I think there might be a method in Jose Baez madness; this is perhaps the only way that he can keep Casey off the stand at trial. With this conviction it would be much easier for him to convince Casey to go there would be suicidal. Ms. Lyons has a very good reason for Casey to avoid the stand at all cost. By the time Casey was finished and ready to step down, not only would the jury be willing to hang her but Ms. Lyons as well.
Casey on the stand would be a disaster for the defense with or without a felony conviction, and as we know if she insists she must be allowed.
They say that psychopaths are their own worst enemies mainly because they can’t understand how others perceive them.
I have the strong belief that Casey had every intention of getting on that stand at her murder trial; the attention would have been intoxicating to her.

Val… take note “We all Love You” you make us feel that what we say and feel is important, you have always treated us with respect and we respect you back.

Thank you, Tug, for those very kind words.

And I agree that I do not believe it can be ruled out that Psycho Princess Poopie-Pants may stomp her feet and demand she be able to take her mark – for all the world to see.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10984862/Casey-Anthony-Baez-FL-Bar-another–insufficient-evidence

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/23430306/Casey-Anthony-felon-paperwork-25-January-2010

I realize others/bloggers have prolly moved on from yesterday’s court hearing/sentencing video of Casey’s check fraud aka: STEALING, however, one aspect of her behaviour that leaves me absolutely baffled is her CONSTANT back and forth rubbing of each eye, examining either the tissue or her fingers and back again, the rubbing, examining, etc…I mean WTHale?!! I’ve never seen anything like this.

After she returned to her seat and the SA and Defense had since moved on to another topic, she sat in her freaking chair and CONTINUED for what seemed like an ETERNITY to ‘wipe away’ her eyes, fake tears, etc. Unfreaking believable.

I found it hysterical that as she ‘had the floor’, when addressing the judge, she actually brought her hand up to her left cheek to wipe away a NON- tear! Hysterical! She is so accustomed to AUTOMATICALLY wiping ‘non tears’ when speaking – aka LYING- that she did that yesterday without even realizing it.

The event coordinator/mother of the year/ CONVICTED FELON is truly a work of art.

I’m sure Casey is well aware of how the camera focuses on her every MOVEMENT- which is even more notable when she is sitting at the table by herself (without Jose and Cavewoman by her side), thus, shielding her body language from the camera’s view.

In reviewing yesterday’s check fraud, aka – THEFT- proceedings/sentencing, I noticed Casey sat STILL as a rock, without batting an eyelash (from what the camera angle showed), during the conversation between the SA & Defense regarding the latent prints/evidence.

If I didn’t know better, I could swear Casey had an ‘oh sh*t’ moment when hearing the words ‘latent’ (either prints or evidence, at this point I can’t recall), therefore, she KNEW all eyes were upon her, hence, her STILL as a rock body language.

When/if reviewing the video, check her out…you will see that she doesn’t even BREATHE at that moment.

Hi Val, Love your blog!
I’m confused about something they keep repeating without a direct source, in the media. When Mr. George questioned the Judge on his ruling re probation and they discussed how the ruling should read due to KC’s incarceration. The judge stated something about how this would come to an end one way or the other and that he had 5 years to work with.
This has been reported that the state says it could take 5 years to bring this to trial. That’s not what I heard in court. The State appears considerably more prepared for a summer trial than the defense. Where is this 5 years yo trial coming from?

TIA

Realistically, I realize that Casey is the only one who should be despised for the unthinkable crime she committed, however, I wonder if I will ever get over being disgusted by the people who raised her. By the people who turned their backs on their precious little granddaughter. I wonder too how many times in the past year and a half Cindy and George have bolted upright from a sound sleep recalling the decomposition smell of Caylee’s body. Does it ever haunt them to know that their granddaughter suffered at the hands of the person she trusted the most.

I think the latent print and Lee’s absence are connected. Despite Lee’s proclaimation to CMA at Caylee’s memorial, I think he is going to opt to testify against her. She told him where Caylee was, he told Domenick Casey and DC found the body. Lee went to move the body, because DC would not, but Lee couldn’t do it either because the bag/body had been scattered by the animals. He somehow left his print(s) behind and to save himself he is going to testify against Casey. This would explain his “recent” absence, his refusal to do a lie-detector test or provide “samples” at the onset of this awful case. Protecting “Lee” from Casey was the biggest mistake the defence has made, because he is free of her manipulation now. I can only imagine how difficult it was for Lee growing up in that household.

I do not care anything about George and Cindy. They can behave in court or not – doesn’t matter to me at all. Okay, I admit it – the worse they behave – the more absurd we see them, but really they mean nothing to me. They raised this women, condoned her behavior and have lied and covered up for her since she was born. Their love is toxic – ask Caylee how much they loved her and what that meant to her – in the end nothing. Big fat zero. Caylee is gone – feelings gone. George even had the audacity to lie about when he last saw her. How creepy is that?

Initially they had my deepest sympathy – I couldnt imagine being in their position, but they have clearly shown that they really didnt care about Caylee – they show that everyday. They only mention her and cry on cue like Casey when trying to elicit sympathy for Casey or themselves or money. They are nothing but trash and frankly they deserve each other.

The judge only has 30 days to finalize his sentence of probation for Casey as I recall from the courtroom discussion. The five years was simply a figure thrown out by several people during these discussions as an extreme example of how long it could take to get to a trial if things aren’t organized and moved along by the judge. Baez responded that the defense wants no unnecessary delays also, but that they will take the time to be thorough in building and presenting their defense for Casey.

The trial may not happen this summer since both sides will have to accommodate witness schedules and what have you to some degree. It will not take 5 years though and no one at the hearing was realistically saying that it could.

I used to think that the dabbing of tears alternating with examinations of the tissue was fear of make-up failure. Now I really think it’s more some sort of obsessive compulsive activity to handle the stress of the situation all mixed up with the fact that she has been coached to cry…but can’t get the cues of WHEN to pretend down pat. Even pretending to cry increases her anxiety so, once the act is wound up, it just keeps on going. (How does a normal person transition from crying to regaining control of the emotions?) She has no idea because she has no emotion in the courtroom other than anger, anxiety AND excitement. She is having fun, on the one hand and she is angry and anxious on the other. In the middle of that crying act, should Baez tell a joke…she would burst into laughter IMO. She would prefer this was all handled in the light she sees it in…no big deal. What’s all the fuss and what a pain in the neck.
She has certain physical measures she takes when she’s anxious…bet she’s removed all fingerprint ridges from her own hands with how she rubs them together all the time! No wonder she may have left no latents behind. No, just kidding but she sure is a study, isn’t she? Her FACE, with it’s excited smile as she entered the courtroom and sat down with the same expression as though she had ARRIVED.
“Ok, here I am! I can hardly wait to get this party started.”
That was the REAL Casey. No wonder she has so much trouble acing the “crying bit.” She has no true desire or inclination to cry at all. She is a very dangerous person.

I have been reading this blog for sometime but I have been bothered by something since I heard these comments !! Cindy Anthony ( “I don’t want to lose another one” … Lee Anthony’s comment was ( ” Is this like the last time” ) .. I could be wrong but those comments tell me Casey had another baby and she did something to the baby.. And because of the family dynamics maybe Cindy helped her cover up for that crime and doing the same thing for this crime.. Of course I could be wrong but this has been in my head for a long time.. Not only that and correct me if I am wrong but didn’t Casey admit to being pregnant earlier before : There is something to this but I do not know what.. Please tell me if I am on the wrong track !!

Re: Casey’s other lost child…From all I’ve heard it wasn’t an abortion or murder
but that she claimed to have had a miscarriage. I recall Lee saying she came to him
about it, saying she woke up covered with blood and he told her to tell Cindy.
And a female friend who said she was crying at a party over a miscarriage but the
friend thought it a lie and a cheap ploy to get the attention of a guy she was trying
to trap.
Re: the Anthonys…I think they will stay in denial no matter how ridiculous it gets
and as long as possible because they are not prepared to cope with the
maelstrom of pathology within themselves the truth will bring, or admit that
it exists in their daughter. They don’t have the coping mechanisms, period,
and are still desperately trying to keep this in the confines of normal reality.
When they fully admit the truth, the won’t be in Kansas anymore. Not ever again.

Dorothy – I’d never though of that scenario, but it sure is interesting! Casey claimed she was pregnant again after she had Caylee. She claims to have had a miscarriage on Valentines Day 2007. I’ve never heard about a pregnancy before Caylee, but nothing would really surprise me coming from this girl. I have always wondered what Cindy and Lee meant by those statements, too.

I don’t believe a word that comes out of Casey’s mouth. She is a pathological liar which means she spits out lies for no reason at all. Until there is proof, I disregard anything that Casey has told her family, friends, acquaintances. law enforcement and strangers. People believing her lies is what made her powerful in the past and I hate to see that happening again.

Casey committed this unthinkable act herself and she is the only one to blame. After reading all the facts and evidence in the case it appears that Casey’s intentions were to get rid of her problem and move on with life as if nothing happened. I’m sure if no one ever asked her about Caylee she would have never uttered Caylee’s name again.

Since parents are the most important role models that a child has, while growing up, we all have to take some responsibility in how we help develop our children because ‘The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.’

Maybe the miscarriage was the result of something Casey did to end that problem. Thus the comments from Cindy and Lee. And of course no one would not know about that because they never mentioned it to anyone. Of course if this is the case it could never be proven and at this point I don’t think it would matter much.

I very much doubt that Casey was preggos before Caylee. Had she already resorted to having killed a baby, this would have been easier for her and she would have planned better. I mean, I could have come up with a better plan than this one while drunk and nodding on heroine! 8O I mean, how dumb do you have to be to go off of the deep end on the party train after killing your baby and then tell people that she had been kidnapped?! Also, how stupid to make up not just one person whole cloth, but a whole group of people and then place them in definite locations so that the police can easily check them out and find that they do not exist! Not to mention the whole driving around with the body in the trunk routine for even a few hours. Nope. She did not kill a baby before this.

Her pal was right and she made that whole episode up at the time.

Thanks again for the insight and the laughs. ‘Princess Poopie-Pants’ HA! I was watching Casey’s face as well during the ‘at this rate it will be five years after the event’ comment and noted a look of surprise on the felon’s mug. You would think the defense would be concerned about getting their client a fair and speedy trial. But if they know she will be in jail anyway because they realize she killed her daughter (and all they are concerned about is their involvement in a high publicity trial for the ‘betterment’ of their careers in law) then they can take their time and hope she doesn’t get the death penalty.

For the rest of us, we are waiting for that one moment of justice when Casey’s shoulders shudder and the tears flow after the death penalty ruling comes back from the jury. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Imagine Cindy’s red face full of disbelief and rage and George’s full of remorse.

‘I don’t want to lose another one”… As I recall Cindy yelled that after a camera person (or reporter) in a crush of vehicles got too close to Lee one day.

I’m no Cindy apologist, as a matter of fact she makes my skin crawl and I’d love to see her behind bars forever – but I’m pretty sure the genesis of that statement has nothing to do with anything regarding this case.

My memory could be faulty here but then again I could be right. 8)

You know, that’s a good point I’d like to revisit: Cindy Anthony obviously knew with a certainty that there was no ZFG — knew that was a Casey lie, and tried to figure out/concoct a scenario fitting someone of Casey’s circle of friends as the “nanny/kidnapper.”
Reasons?
1. Cindy is intellectually challenged and actually believed that Casey was “protecting the family” by both withholding correct information and by giving false information.
2. Cindy knew Casey was responsible for Caylee’s disappearance and was stringing her along in the hopes of getting info out of Casey over time.
3. Cindy knew Casey was responsible for Caylee’s disappearance, knew that Caylee was dead, and was desperate to find a story that would incriminate someone else and excuse Casey.
4. Cindy is not intellectually challenged but was psychologically and emotionally so unable to deal with the predicament of a missing Caylee and an arrested Casey that she repressed her reasoning abilities and denied to herself and the world that Casey could in any way be responsible…

Perhaps it’s number 4. She can’t really believe, as late as mid-year ’09, that the remains are not Caylee’s, right? You all remember reading about that? I just can’t get over Cindy’s inappropriate words and behavior…. I’d love to hear Cindy’s explanation as to why Casey stole from Amy… it would probably be bizarre. 8O

Steffiee —

I go with 2, 3 AND 4!!!! Honestly, I don’t believe that Cindy knew Caylee was dead right away…THAT was denial. After that, I don’t buy the denial defense. I don’t believe she thought Casey was protecting the family. What a load of garbage is that!!! Can you imagine??? Your daughter is a total liar and you know she lies about everything and you are going to believe she is protecting the family??? No way…

Cindy knows Caylee is dead now. Why she’s saying otherwise is creepy. She wants someone — anyone — to take the fall for Casey. They are completely warped.

I agree with Sally, I too do not believe that Cindy knew that Caylee was dead right away. Perhaps that chill of reality ran through her body for a fleeting moment at first but her mind immediately went into denial mode to preserve her sanity.

I believe the most telling evidence that Casey is a fearless, vindictive sociopath is not only the fact that she murdered her daughter but she drove around with Caylee’s body in the trunk of her car for days not being afraid that someone would find it. I think this proves that once Casey murdered Caylee she was so happy that Caylee was out of her life that she totally put Caylee’s existence out of her mind, at least until the horrible smell arose.

I’ve been reading Val’s blog since the beginning and posted for the 1st time a few days ago. I had written a little piece on Feb 22, 2009, after Caylee’s Memorial. I have not posted it on the net or shared these thought with anyone until now. I think it may shed some light on Casey and Cindy’s dysfunctional relationship. I am the product of a narcissistic mother myself and this post is an attempt to decode, word for word, Casey’s statement to her mother regarding Caylee’s memorial service.

Here’s what I wrote :

I’ve been lurking forever and a day. Thank you for letting me hang with you all. I’d like to share some thoughts with you, if I may, and if my post offends anyone, I apologize in advance….I’ve been haunted by this case, the Anthony’s and the evidence surrounding Caylee’s death. Casey’s only public statement, released the day before Caylee’s memorial, is telling. I believe she was saying much more then she intended to….I’ve posted her statement and in parenthesis, I’ve attempted to read between the lines. Here I go…..

I miss Caylee every day and every minute of every day ( I lost a part of myself when I killed my daughter, remember Mom how many times you told me how Caylee reminded you of me when I was a little girl?). I can’t be there for Caylee’s funeral, but some day I want to go and visit her grave and tell her how much I miss her. I allowed my parents to be in charge for the funeral for Caylee (Once more I attempted to trust my family to honor my wishes regarding MY daughter). I told them I wanted her buried in a casket (I gave Caylee a final kiss by placing a heart sticker on her lips, I wrapped her in her favorite blanket. I made every attempt to protect her from the elements and prevent her remains from being scattered by placing her in plastic bags. I chose a casket of white canvas with handles, so I could take her with me at a later time should I need to…I layed her to rest with her favorite toys and my favorite picture with those innocent and soulful eyes* ), and I wanted there to be a gravestone so I could go and visit her (I placed a towel at the burial site, near log benches so I could visit her in the place where I had escaped my family in my youth. I placed a paver to mark her final resting spot. I buried her in a sacred place where I had buried my pets, the only loving creatures that did not critisize, berate, nor emotionally and psychologically abuse me, but rather loved me unconditionally.) I asked them if there could only be a private funeral for just the family (I did not want to share Caylee with my family anymore. She is and was MY daughter, not Cindy’s child). I know they cremated her (Dagnamit! If I wanted Caylee cremated, I would have stolen more gas and done it myself). I still don’t want a public event with cameras and everybody around for Caylee’s service, but I can’t stop my parents from doing what they want. I truly hope that it will help them (Mom, when are you going to get the fact that she is MY daughter and I wanted more for her then the childhood I endured. No way was I going to let you do to my daughter what you had done to me….)

I’ve lost count of how many times on this forum and others that Caylee is in a much better place, maybe Casey thought so too….

Here’s what I think Casey should do….confess, tell us all why, how, where and when she killed Caylee. This would not only spare her the death penalty, but she would finally be taking total control of her destiny. A confession would spare the tax payers of FL a huge expensive and lengthy trial. The sworn testimony of the Anthony’s and those involved would be useless and open the door for LE to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. When found guilty the Anthony’s and their freak show accomplices would be forbidden from profitting from Caylee’s death, because on some level they too would be responsible for the situation and circumstances surrounding Caylee’s demise.

DISCLAIMER – I am not advocating for Casey, what she did was wrong and she needs to be punished, but she is not the only freak in this circus. I believe ALL involved should suffer the consequences of their actions, or lack of them…

Wow Sammie. Lot’s of stuff to think about in your comment and your experiences.

Do you in some way think that Casey too is a narcissist – more than Cindy? That’s the feeling I get – one power struggle against another. With Caylee as the prize. It seems even in death they are still fighting this battle.

Good comment. Hope things have worked out for you!