Joy Wray’s Rap Sheet

A star is born!!!

Really not a desirable witness, I should think. But you have to go with what you can get when you have nothing else!!!

Yep, she’s a LUNATIC and a CRIMINAL. Like I stated in my other post, she’s not worthy of my time, as there are too many other crazy characters in this case to focus my attention on. Besides Casey, I pray everyday that George and Cindy get what’s coming to them as well. Imo , Cindy is the worst of the two for parenting skills. She knew Casey had problems, but it was her pride that kept her from getting that girl any help. It’s too late now to try and convince the public that she is standing by her daughter because she so call loves her. It is all about Cindy and she wants everyone to say “Look how much she loves her daughter, what an incredible woman. It’s all BS. The public knows it, LE knows it and Casey most of all knows it. Everything and I mean everything these people have done goes beyond my comprehension of sanity. Please let justice be done for Caylee and as for the rest of the Anthony clan, may they live out their lives being ostracized by everyone they meet. There will never be peace for them and no where to hide. Lynn

Wonder if Joy’s periods of stayin out of trouble fall during times when she was comitted or Baker Acted ? I mean it’s hard to get in trouble when your in a straight jacket ! I’m also curious to see if dates she says she searched coincide with her trips to the looney bin !

After this loon’s letter to the judge, I’m wondering why on hearth hasn’t someone noticed she is really in need of medical attention … Seriously, she needs to be medicated and supervised !!

I have never seen such a bizarre circus as this, ever!

Only when all these LIARS are behind bars for Murder, tampering ,obstucting and possibly aiding and abetting will JUSTICE be SERVE for CAYLEE.

I find this all so rather disturbing, Val, William. What use has the defense of her, other than to give her enough leeway even so that she hangs herself?!? How else could it be, considering the fact that she just came out with all that “new” information, of having been in the wooded area well before Kronk, witnessed the planting of the Disney dress and the beads in the park! Does she really believe she’s done these things, regardng the dress and the beads, in particular, or is someone taking full advantage of her mental state and making suggestions that she turns into her own realities? Will she be the next to be accused? And if she is, I’d dare say it wouldn’t be so easily poo-poo’ed away, not with her KNOWN and documented history, as it stands, as well as her many more recent insistances as to being in all places and knowing all things, to include being in the wooded area not only prior to Kronk, but so many times!

Call me quite crackers, if you feel you must, but do our jails and prisons not house many a mentally ill person so tried and convicted on a false confession? I’m really beginning to worry now, as there’s no use for Joy Wray other than to chew her up and spit her out, all in the name of and for the sake of creating that reasonable doubt. Assure me, please, will ya?

Willow

I can’t assure you, Willow. Joy has no value to anyone on either side. For that reason she is in a place that she may not be able to get out of.

Predators prey on the weak. Joy is weak.

Everytime you think it can’t get nuttier, it does. How is it that the Anthonys attract such ridiculous people? Oh yeah. They are ridiculous. Sleep with dogs, get up with fleas.

The biggest victims in the Joy Wray “case” are her children! They are featured full face and identified EVERYWHERE she gets camera time and on the you tube videos. Remember that her name is out there and just how many “joy wrays” are there in the Orlando phonebook (heck, in ANY book!) therefore the physical SAFETY of those children needs to be protected, not to mention their mental health from the ridicule from classmates et al!
Oh yeah, just more of the “good parenting” skills as demonstrated from the impact of the H2O in Florida………KIDDING, sorta

joypath!

Nice to see you. I had missed you.

well…..seems CT is having it’s own crime spree and death marathon lately! Keeping us on our toes, and Not dancing the “Nutcracker”!

Darn, that’s not a good holiday message. Sorry to hear it, but glad to see you.

Great job Jenni, Joy Wray will never make it to the stand ! She wants her 15 minutes of fame and to go on to talk shows,she is no different than the Anthony’s.

While it is curious that slick-dick Dom. Casey hasn’t pointed out to Cindy yet what a nefarious character she and George are hanging with, it’s going to be even more curious to watch how those who have hung with Joy re-act as her true character is revealed.

Hi Val… Yep, we have now offically landed in Bizzarro world!..On another note i have a HINKY ALERT for you!

re: RULING ON ATTORNEY JAIL VIDEOS: I was curious regarding Judge Strickland’s rather cryptic ruling on the taped attorney visits……It seemed to me ( from his response) that there must be a whole slew of attorney taped visits that already exist? ( and perhaps have been held back and not yet released)??….Hmmmm…Hinky?
..The Judge even referenced something to the effect that due to the delay of the trial, the defense had already received a significant delay period …The Judge also stated that he would rule in camera to review the attorney jail videos to see if they were inflammatory etc. ( with a hearing if necessary (footnoted)–by media obviously)?…

So, is there a treasure trove of attorney videos yet to be released?….It is apparent why the duh-fense would fight tooth and nail to see that these would never see the light of day ( with casey being so non-video-friendly?)….

Do you have any inside scoop?….

Thanks,
ivoire

Ivoire,

I do not have any inside information on this matter. I’m most likely more clueless than you.

Well looky looky here……so this is the Duh-fenses’ STAR WITNESS??????
If Baez & Co think they have a winner in Joy Wray……then they are all CRAZY LOONS.
and a psychoanalyst should be summoned ASAP.
They tried to pin Kronk to the murder of Caylee……and he had NO Priors….but this jerk has a long list of criminal behavior activity……and the duh-fense has HER as a witness…
Talk about skulls being examined (pardon me Caylee) but this so called Dream Team
needs theirs examined by Dr. G for absentee of brains.

Wow, I have done some digging, but not as much as Jenni has done! Great job! I had the current ones, not stopping for lights and sirens, etc.
Seems she has a little issue with the trespassing and burglary. How sad is that? I use to think that she had problems mentally, but I am thinking that is a cover up now for all she has done. When all else fails, take the rubber room. I believe her problems are deep and she is a big criminal! It is very sad. I say hook her up for the defense, they need a star witness!
In all the cases I have read about, I have never seen so many people wanting the spot light! It is not about them, it is about JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!

I want to say first of all that I love this site. It is a treasure chest filled with factual well written articles on a subject I find very interesting. I have never followed a case this closely before but I became hooked when I heard the young woman had never reported her adorable daughter missing. Instead she is sliding stripper poles, tattooing the “good life”, and stealing from friends and family alike. I just kept thinking this will quickly be resolved, even if that resolution was Casey finally admitting to killing Caylee and she received a 10-20 year prison term. But the more attention I pay to this case I realize Casey is the tip of the crazy iceberg. Her lawyer took 8 years to be able to sit for the bar, her first PR man was a con man,there is evidence stacked against here that is so high that any lawyer in their right mind would be begging their client to take a plea. And then there is her family. This post is already too long but Cindy’s behavior amazes me everyday. She is so out there. In conclusion, it makes sense that the sad sick people like Joy would want a piece of this craziness. My hope lies in Judge Strickland who I believe has gotten everything right so far and seems very fair. I want Casey to have a fair trial. I want jurors who can fairly listen to both sides, and I think we will get that with Judge Strickland. Thanks for letting me babble on. I love you site.

Humble,

I’m wondering if some of these trespassing are not related to some kind of stalking behavior. Look at July – the 5th,7th and 8th she gets arrested for trespassing. That looks like she wouldn’t stay away to me.

Donna,

Welcome! The “fair trial” is what I want. And while the defense has never hesitated to cast accusations out concerning the prosecution side – like saying they leak documents, calls or videos when all they are doing is releasing discovery – it appears to me the side that is trying to muck this all up is the defense team.

Well its back to the drawing board for the dream team. Jordan screwed them, Buchanan wasn’t even supposed to be there and Joy has a wrap sheet as long as your arm.
1st February looms

No more Popa Jo hugs for Joy methinks, but maybe another motion in limine

I feel so sorry or those kids

Morning Valhall, interesting! At this point I put nothing past her! She seems to have some real deep issues. She did start with the credit card and moved on to the trespassing/stalking and up to burglary. I guess at some point she would have to use the Bakers Act, it is an easy way out! She is just a nut job. She is now obsessed with this Justice for Caylee and really she isn’t doing a darn thing to help!

Val-

BRILLIANT posts on Joy Wray.

Let me clear something up for folks:
Video of a criminal defendant meeting with her counsel will NEVER be released, as it is protected by the Attorney-Client privilege. The defense team was not arguing that video of their visits with Casey not be released to the public; rather, they were seeking to not have the video made in the first place. Was NOT going to happen.

With respect to the video of her visits with family, friends (who might THAT be?!)… They were asking for a)no video (DENIED–that was the easy call), and b) even if video still taken (it WILL be), to have NO release to the public, because Casey’s every word and expression are dissected, etc–and all she wants is to have someone tell her that they “love her”, blahblahhhblahhhhh.

Here is where the Judge was presented with the only sticky situation.
He has to balance two competing Constitutional rights, to wit: the Due Process rights of the criminal defendant vis-a-vis the 1st Amendment rights of the press (which, pursuant to the Florida Sunshine Laws, is entitled to request and publish these matters of public interest).

Strickland’s decision on this was precisely what I was hoping for.
He made the easier call– they will be videotaped (by virtue of County Jail policies and procedures, which he –as a trial judge–truly has no authority to disturb), and then… he struck a balance between the aforementioned Constitutional rights.

This is not only FAIR under the circumstances, it also serves to:
a) protect the integrity of the verdict (if he elects to protect any given video from release to the public which could impact her rights, as he did with the video of her apparently highly inculpatory reaction to the news report of a little body being found by the elementary school, she cannot complain on appeal about it);
b) (and this is the part I love)… there is no longer any bs excuse about why her parents–who claim to love her and believe she could never hurt anyone (despite the fact that she hurt THEM, her brother, her grandparents, her friends..and her own child in the ultimate fashion)–do not visit this woman.

To me, the motion seeking to protect the release of video with family/friends (again–who might THAT be?), was not merely a motion to protect her constitutional rights to a fair trial, but was likewise a total PR move, because people are right to wonder how the heck this family has not paid their allegedly “innocent” “mother of the year” a single visit in OVER A YEAR, if only just to tell her that they “love” her. It is NONSENSE.

The no-family visit rule, apparently enacted by Baez, was purely a strategic decision which was based entirely on the inability to control how this family interacts with each other. They thought they were being slick; they thought they were smarter than the world (a common theme with the Anthony clan), but they were sorely mistaken.

Someone please tell me that Cindy Anthony was camped out to visit her allegedly “innocent” daughter after the judge issued this ruling! She can visit now, and be assured that the judge will fairly protect the integrity of the trial from a fairness standpoint, so what is that problem?? Why wait to waive like a lunatic in the courtroom when all you have to do is take a short trip to the jail to see her??

Sorry for the snark, but I hope I have shed some light on the legal maneuvers.

In any event-
Yes. No one has any use for Joy Wray IN COURT. It is apparent that the Anthonys have use for her in the meantime, however, so the more people learn of her character (criminal record) and her mental health picture, the better.

Keep up the brilliant work.

Silver!

I HAVE MISSED YOUR PEARLS OF WISDOM! Thank you so much for sharing this. You always help me understand all the legal aspects that are, most times, confusing to me if I’m left to myself!

People have made wild speculations about why he put a stop to the family visits. I don’t think it’s anything so difficult to figure out. (Not saying I agree with his tactics, but What Would YOU Do if you had to try to manage the situtation?! He already tried telling Casey to ONLY say that she “loves” them and “misses” them– she said so herself on one of the visits (“All I can do is tell you guys I love you…”blahblahblahh)–but she said those PERMITTED remarks only after losing her cool with Cindy (and revealing much more than she understood).

I keep replaying in my mind the portion of Cindy’s SAO deposition where Baez is trying to control her from revealing that Casey took items from the house to bring to him–and finally, in a total lapse of anything resembling professionalism, told her to “ZIP IT!”

Trying to “handle” Cindy Anthony has to be a total NIGHTMARE.

Silver, Shout-out to you!

Agree Agree Agree!

If you have time, what do you know of “advanced biographical info on jurors”?
How personal are the questions, what type of questions and/or does it involve investigations as to the truthfulness of answers, etc?

Silver thanks for taking the time to explain. I’ve found all of the media sources confusing in their interpretations of the rulings. Please clarify and correct me if I’m wrong. Judge Strickland will view FAMILY visit videos prior to release and will not release them if they’re too prejudicial. So he was not referring to her attorney visits. Are attorney client videos ever released?

Vahall I read here every day. You’re doing a great job!

Valhall…Your Time Line is a great resource…Thanks. The link you have for July 26 is incorrect. You have the audio of her first visitor Patrick Bourgious on July 24. This is a link to the phone call Casey made to Lee on July 26 from jail. Please deleat for being OT as I posted this on TimeLine Update Blog two days ago. Again my thanks to you and others posting here.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee-anthony-casey-lee-mp3,0,7946378.mp3file

Earmark,

Thanks! I had missed your first posting of this correction. I will get this fixed this weekend.

Just heard on CNN that Judge Strickland ruled that the state can seek the death penalty for Casey, way to go Judge Strickland !!!

Val ,
Just wanted to comment on how wonderful I think your site is. You and everyone else on here do an outstanding job on explaining everything. Happy Holidays everyone!

P.S. I never paid much attention to the JW youtube videos til the other day , and all I can say on that is WOW. I just finished watching the newest one , and I am dang near speechless. It is actually frightening.

Val, thank you for another great post. I am always empathetic towards anyone with mental or emotional illness, but I have to put on the brakes in that area with Joy Wray.There is more to this woman than just sickness. Her motivations are not altruistic and her ridiculous campaigne is directed only towards herself and her own ego. Her moves are orchestrated and cannot be considered as only an illness. This ‘look at me’ attitude is becoming more and more nauseating by the day. I’m wondering if she is ‘baker-acted’ after some of the crimes she’s committed as a means to get herself off the hook. I do realize she’s sick but nonetheless, she seems very capable of taking care of number one. To use a daycare centre to write that inane letter and getting her children involved in videos demonstrates her manipulative albilites and how able she is to seek out that which is convenient and brings more attention to her. The irony here is that if the Anthonys once engaged Joy’s intervention, she’s made a complete mockery of the situation and they have lost all control over her. Now Joy is simply a parody of Cindy, herself.
Her stalking issues and unstable characteristics make me wonder if she suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder.
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/random/bordr.html

Silverspnr, thank you for the clarifications. I believe that not only do the Anthonys not want their family dynamics displayed for public consumption, but they also feel that they cannot control the fact that Casey may make statements that may ultimately cause themselves harm or somehow implicate their involvement in this convoluted mess.

Welcome Amy!

Yes, I agree. That last video that Jesse linked in the JW thread is downright disturbing….frightening.

Thanks, Val, great post! What an “absolutely” scummy bunch of people. Is there no end to the parade of bottomfeeders?! Sheesh!

And thanks, Silver, for the invaluable window you give us into the judicial process.

This would all be so much more confusing without the benefit of your clear vision and prose! Thanks so much Val, and Silver, and Blink too! ( and Maura, and Humble, and etc! Too many to list!)

Hooray VALHALL!!!……..Good Job …….. Thanks Judge Strickland…….Merry Christmas everyone…..JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE

PS. EWWWW JOY WRAY!

If the biological father is ever identified, would he be able to sue Casey in a civil lawsuit?

Hi LC,

While this is a bit OT…I think you have a great question.

Yes, he would.

I found it humorous that Jude Strickland used the word brief when talkin about Mr.Ashton’s statements to the court. And just compelling when talking about
Ms.Lyons… I wonder if this means that he agrees that she talks to much

DP DENIED

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=19690675

Okay, I am officially confused again, please someone straighten me out. Wasn’t the Disney dress (the Minnie Mouse red polka dot dress) found somewhere else earlier on and was discovered it was not one of Caylee’s dresses? I remember Cindy even saying on a news report that “dress” was still hanging in her closet. Was it ever determined that dress was Caylee’s and was it found at the crime scene. My sincere apologies if there was a dress found with Caylee’s body and not the one I am thinking about.

The disney dress was found earlier around the time that Texas Equsearch was there. I remember Tim Miller being on Nancy saying that it was not Caylee’s. Of course Nancy was stating her BOMBSHELLS as usual. As far as I know the big trouble lettering and shirt and shorts were found with her remains

Great report,and find.I doupt this woman will be used to testify.An she cant be trusted,as with truth,about pictures,or video.Of Caylees crime scene.Hasnt her husband also had trouble with the law.Everywhere i see Cindy,Joys ciricling like a shark.lol–I would love to hear your take on Roy Kronks decietful bitter exwife,the big one,who rolls her eyes .She sure was shifty when talking to The PI Baezs hired.She seems to me a bitter scorned woman.Also why is DCasey always running,an getting out of court.He clearly has something to hide.lol give us the dirt lol Love your site.You have explained much. Keep up the good work

One part of me feels sorry for Joy Wray, thinking that she is mentally ill. The other part thinks that she may be crazy like a fox, and is in it for the money. I have read her sad interjections on another site, and everytime she is going to be either getting interviewed, or going to court, or going to a memorial for Caylee she appears to inform the host that she will be doing such and such and needs his help, or company. I am sure it is just because she wants all the commenters to know how important she thinks she is. It’s sadly ludicrous. I agree that the welfare of her children should be looked into.

Silverspnr

Regarding the visits order –
I’m not so sure it covers the family.
Attorney visits have never been released and as you point out, wouldn’t be. But the judge’s ruling makes it sound like he has confused points on the family motion vs the attorney visits motion.

Jose had two motions before the court, one for attorney visits and one for family visits. His one for family video was poorly done! In the middle of the family motion (see bullets 2 and 3) he threw in arguing about attorney visits which he already argued in his attorney visits motion. No surprise he has a motion that is a mess. But, back to the point lol.

On the judge’s order the title clearly reflects he is addressing the motion regarding “attorney visits” videos. His whole order refers to ‘attorney visits’. There is nothing on the family visits in that motion. How could the attorney visits Order include the family when that is a completely different motion and not addressed in this Order?

I don’t see a ruling on the family visits motion. From what I can tell, all others have now been addressed. Did the judge forget? Being it is a completely separate motion, I would expect it needs its own ruling.

Add to the resume, the now infamous JWrongWray says, in her joking video about her and her desire to search for missing children:

” [laughing]…We… I search for the missing…[laughing]… we’re obsessed over missing kids…[and more laughing]”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-sTcXziXfA (no date given– she did have this on her own website, now it’s elsewhere)

(warning to the defense ‘joint’ team– this is your witness and ‘serious searching for the missing’ witness with video and photos, folks!!)

No date, but Joy wears the Caylee bracelets as she laughs and makes fun, and her hair might be the faded out ‘purple do’ that was done for the October 16, 2009 court hearing, in which she made her ‘bright’ debut with pressers to follow. So that means ‘recent’.

Kleat, regarding the link to the video .. mind if I ask? What the heck was that?!!
You just gotta laugh! It’s so utterly senseless! Look out B & L, your witness is a train wreck waiting that done did happen!

Kleat … X the waiting. I changed the wording.

George and Cindy Antony’s Body Language on the Today Show Indicates They Are Feigning Denial and Know Daughter Casey is Guilty

Dr. Lillian Glass Body Language Expert Dec. 17, 2009

CINDY AND GEORGE MUST CLAIM SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALLOWING CASEY’S BAD BEHAVIOR IN THE PAST

I have always found Cindy Anthony’s yelling, belligerence, anger, rudeness, obnoxious and inappropriate gum chewing, manipulation, and hostility extremely offensive. While my dear friend Nancy Grace, who’s show on which I regularly appear on Headline News cuts Cindy a lot of slack just because she is a parent and is defending her daughter, I refuse to do so.

Full article:
http://www.drlillianglass.com/blog/

Willow, I just posted it, I don’t ‘splain it!!!

The judge summarily DENIED the defense Motion for a Protective Order seeking him to direct Orange County jail to destroy videos of family visits without any explanation as to why (because he found no merit whatsoever/no need to explain).

The judge also DENIED the defense Motion for a Protective Order seeking him to direct Orange County jail from even videotaping Attorney visits. He also DENIED the DELAY of the release of ANY videotape which MIGHT be released.

I know his Order is somewhat confusing, because it leads one to believe that videotape of ATTORNEY visits could be released, just as video of family visits HAS BEEN released, but let me explain why I think he Order is confusing there.

Has anyone seen a single video of ANY meeting she has had WITH HER ATTORNEYS?
No.

Why? Well, if anything contained in the video could be construed as a confidential communication between Casey and her attorneys, made for the purpose of seeking legal advice and/or of furnishing legal advice, (why else would they be meeting with her), it should be protected by the privilege.

I imagine–at least I hope– that he plans to protect ALL videos of ATTORNEY visits from release after he reviews the video in camera, UNLESS it is apparent that the meeting was not for the purpose of seeking and/or providing LEGAL ADVICE.

For example: If they sit and play checkers… or a game of tongue hockey… and do not appear to be discussing legal advice at all, then the videos are not protected by the attorney-client privilege and could, arguably, be released to the public.

He cannot simply ASSUME that all such meetings would be for the purpose of confidential communications made for the purpose of seeking or providing legal advice (or, at least, that is what I would expect a media attorney to argue).

Be assured though:
The attorney-client privilege TRUMPS the “right of the public” to know, in other words (or, at least, it should, and I believe he would be making REVERSIBLE error if he failed to protect it).

He has also added a layer of protection for the media in his Order, such that if he does believe a particular video should be barred from release, because “a public viewing might be prejudicial” (as in the case of the video of her learning of the discovery of Caylee’s remains), any party in interest may request a hearing, which he will set.

The PRACTICAL effect of this Order is to continue to policy which had already been in effect from the get-go. He will only prohibit the release of videos which are either privileged, or which would be prejudicial to her right to a fair trial.

Thanks, Silver

UNLESS the vantage point of the camera is so far removed that one cannot possibly discern anything other than people seated at a table, talking… which would provide the public with NO information whatsoever… I suppose a media attorney could argue for release of attorney meeting videos…
but what would be the point?

I would hope that no one would seek to invade the province of the privilege.

FINALLY!
Sorry!

He did address non-attorney videos in his opinion.
He referred to “ANY” video which “MIGHT” be released, and I believe he either meant to include ALL (as in family, etc) visit videos in that statement, because he specifically refers to the SOLE video that he HAS already protected from release, which was NOT an attorney visit video, but rather a video of Casey in the jail, reacting to the discovery of Caylee’s remains.

Perhaps he will issue a separate Order re: the family videos, but it should be consistent with his ruling here.

tongue hockey?

lmao

Thanks, Silver. I love the way you explain this legal mess.

Val, Silver,

LMAO, as well!! Ditto on the “tongue hockey”, licorice lips. MUAH!

Kleat,

There ain’t no ‘splaining such a rare work of personage, is there?

SILVERSPNR- or anyone who can answer.

If you see this please help!! LOL

I never thought the atty/client meetings would be released to the public. I have never heard of that happening unless the atty is accused of some breach during a meeting with a client.

So I am confused, ( a usual state for me) because the statement by the Judge about in camera review is included in the ruling on the motion to preclude video of atty/client meetings not the ruling on the motion to preclude video of family visits.

Did the Judge make a mistake in drafting that decision?

I hope someone can make sense of that question and clear this up for me, Thanks in advance.

RE: FAMILY VIDEOS

Hey Silver….Thank you so much for you “legal speak” splaining!

Since Casey is a defendent in an on-going investigation, why would any videos between she and her evil parents be “private” and subject to an in-camera review ( before being “sunshined ” for all the world to view and enjoy)?…

For example, George and Cindy visit….Casey tells them “I hate you both…..In fact, I hate you so much that to spite you, I killed my OWN daughter..F.O.A.D Mom and Dad”….

Wouldn’t these jail videos between Casey and her parents–showing the “luv”–along with any possible admissions and her grotesque- on-camera-ugliness NOT be protected by any privilidge — or even a courtesy ?…..

So, I guess I am curious as to why ANY parental visitations between the evil Anthony’s and their spawn , would be required to be subjected to any review ( versus being immediately released)?….

ivoire

ps….I just bet the attorney/client ( bozo & casey) videos are chock full of all sorts of shenanigans–hugging, hair smoothing, tantrums, hand holding, hair twirling, picking the lint off her pants , adjusting her “jail top” (so her ta-ta’s don’t accidently pop out–YUCK!!) yadda yadda yadda)….I think it would be a great watch!.

off topic but I had to share… I love children and how innocent they are.

My precious little 7 year old daughter, Baylee just came up to me a bit ago and said “why did Caylee’s mom hurt her? mom, you always make me feel better not make me hurt? Then she asks if Caylee would get to have a BIG christmas in heaven??? So Precious… I told her yes and she was in heaven being an angel and then she said Mommy, you would have taken care of Caylee. You took in Kenzie( My adopted child) when her mom was bad.. She should not have done that I think I better pray for Casey!!! So precious!!! I love kids

Thanks for sharing that, Kimberlee. As much as all these people disgust me, we still need to pray for them. After all, Christ said it aint much of nothing to be nice to those who are our friends, but it’s a real trick doing good for some one we can’t stand.

that there ain’t, Willow, so would she be a perfect next Anthony accused?? More of a criminal history than Casey, trespassing, theft, even ‘stalking charges almost’ , burglary, lots of criminal mischief, violation of protective order, domestic violence.

What better target for the Anthony’s and the defense than this Joy Wray, and she’s someone who is far less able to defend herself, she can’t even understand why she might be in this risky position as the next accused.

She is (was last summer) blonde, she seems to love kids, she could have possibly, by some stretch, thought by Casey to be a good ‘nanny candidate’. And in her recent crazy YouTube against the spoofer cocoapuff, she made threats, several times, to this person.

And she is in thick with the Anthony’s– what did Lee say about keeping friends close, enemies closer? (enemies aka fall girls and fall guys)

WSH-

Re: advanced bio info on prospective jurors-

As one who does not practice in Florida, I can only share what happens up here.

I would imagine that this is akin to the use of what is commonly referred to as a “supplemental questionnaire” (supplemental to the “standard juror questionnaire” which citizens in most jurisdictions are required to fill out when we are summoned for jury duty, i.e. the form that you fill out with: your name, dob, gender, race, occupation for past however many yrs, level of education, marital status, occupation of spouse, # of kids/step kids/etc, prior jury service?, ever end in a hung verdict? you or anyone close to you ever been the victim of a crime? charged with or arrested for a crime, other than a driving violation? witness to a crime, whether or not it ever came to court? worked in law enforcement or court agency? more likely/less likely to believe the testimony of a law enforcement officer because of his/her job? be able to follow the court’s instruction that the defendant in a criminal case is presumed innocent unless and until proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? etc, etc, etc… are you taking any medications that might interfere or prevent you from serving as a juror (SHOUT OUT TO JOY WRAY!, etc, etc, etc) (trying to keep SOMETHING here ON TOPIC

Juror questionnaires are kept confidential in the jurisdictions where I am admitted to practice, and I believe that is so in most jurisdictions. Thus, copies of the confidential questionnaires are made available only for use during voir dire to the attorneys for the prosecution and defense, and to the trial court, except as needed for appellate review.

All copies of juror questionnaires are typically destroyed at the conclusion of the voir dire, and the originals of all questionnaires for jurors who were not questioned during voir dire should be destroyed at the conclusion of the jurors’ service, unless the court orders otherwise for good cause shown.

I don’t know if Florida has a form for “advanced bio” information, but typically, it is the party requesting it who will draft what is referred to as the “supplemental” questionnaire.

One benefit of using a supplemental questionnaire in a case with so much media exposure is that it may enable the court and counsel to weed out jurors who could not serve in a case before voir dire begins, and thereby accelerate the process of sending these prospective jurors to a different case.

A simple supplemental question such as “Have you, or anyone who resides with you, ever posted on a blog about this case?” (or something more artfully drafted than that, but you get the drift)… or “Have you ever tuned into the Nancy Grace show on HLN?” (it wouldn’t be prudent to simply ask if the person was a fan of hers, as many who tune in cannot stand the woman–nor the standard group of lawyers she “unleashes”, both prosecutors and criminal defense counsel–and I loudly count myself among the latter crowd, because YEESH, those pundits are shameless media whores, IMO*) would have the benefit of weeding out all those who may harbor a particular bias BEFORE having to later weed them out, one by one, after they have been sent to the court room on a panel.
*I doubt I have to express that in the form of an opinion though, as the truth is a defense to any alleged defamation claim

Anyway–back to it:

The use of juror questionnaires (both standard and supplemental) provides jurors more time to think about their answers and provide more complete responses than during the voir dire process itself. In addition, since jurors cannot hear the responses of other jurors when they are filling out questionnaires on their own, juror questionnaires can elicit the jurors’ own opinions without the influence of the responses by other jurors. Jurors may also be more likely to reveal socially unacceptable attitudes, such as racial prejudice or sexisms. Similarly, jurors may be more apt to disclose private or embarrassing information (such as a prior criminal record) in a juror questionnaire than in open court.

The American Bar Association has endorsed the use of juror questionnaires: “Courts should ensure that the process used to empanel jurors effectively serves the goal of assembling a fair and impartial jury.”

So…in appropriate cases, (and this is clearly one due to the media exposure alone) the court may/should consider using a specialized questionnaire addressing particular issues that may arise. It will be helpful to both sides to get rid of those who hold –or who have even at one time held–a firm opinion as to her guilt, or innocence, as the case may be (ref to ORLANDO EAST–or whatever that nutball’s moniker is).

Typically, the party requesting the supplemental questionnaire drafts it, but is required to confer with the other side on the form and content before it is submitted to the court for review. If the parties cannot agree on the substance and/or form, they prepare separate proposals for the court’s review, along with a memorandum addressing any issues they have with the adverse party’s submission.

Jurors should be advised of the purpose of any questionnaire, how it will be used and who will have access to the information.

While juror questionnaires may provide a number of benefits to the jury selection process, there have been concerns raised about juror privacy. Juror questionnaires pose a different threat to juror privacy than voir dire in open court, because juror questionnaires are written records. A concern for juror privacy is reflected in the ABA’s Principles for Juries and Jury Trials, which state, in pertinent part: “Courts should protect juror privacy insofar as consistent with the requirements of justice and the public interest.” (Hmmm…. not sure how that plays out in Florida, where the Sunshine Laws permit so much information to be disseminated).

This may or may not be what they are seeking, but this is all the light I can shed from personal knowledge. I quickly glanced through the Florida statutes and did not see any there were on point. Hopefully a local, Florida practitioner can provide more –or more pertinent–information.

IVOIRE-

There is no privilege which would prohibit the release of any family visitation videos; the public clearly has an interest in them, and the judge clearly recognizes this.

And hasn’t the defense clearly recognized this by failing to file a single motion for a protective order regarding the release of these videos in the past?! How would it be that there was no prejudice earlier, but there is prejudice now? Have they not, in effect, waived that argument? I would argue that they have if I represented a media outlet. (Remember: it is not the State that seeks to have these videos released; rather, it is the media outlets).

And also keep in mind: just because something is protected from public consumption prior to trial does not necessarily mean it will be protected from the eyes of the jury DURING trial.

Finally, keep in mind that not all of the evidence which has been released via the discovery process will be admissible at trial. The Rules of Evidence still apply, and the party offering any particular piece of evidence must jump through the standard hoops to get it before the jury.

Well Guess I have to put my two cents in on the story of Joy Wray.
I am so surprised that the family and attorneys of Casey didn’t accuse her of babysitting and killing Caylee. Joy Wray is one sick person.
It would have been the perfect person to pin the murder of Caylee on.
Someone that possiblely could have babysit her, someone that claims to know so much about her remains and where she was and when she was placed there.
It could have been the perfect person for the Anthonys to place the blame on.
She had all the past crimes that could have put her in the Anthony’s house and collected all the things that showed up at the crime scene.
Just a hugh waste, total waste.
Instead they choose Kronk. Who wasn’t in the area at the time of the crime.
The big chance of a lifetime that they missed out on.
Yep, she could have been the nanny that casey threw out there.
Now this motion that ask for the Judge to look at Kronk. Val this is another story.
I will be waiting for the story.
Thanks for all you do. Love to read your forum.

I believe part of Joy’s interview with LE relates to her desire to claim “inside knowledge” (ie the pillowcase and its odor), she’s trying very hard to relate that she also knows the smell of decomposition! Poor Joy, she can’t even get a timeline correct to support her stories/theories/proof of Casey’s vindication and innocence! And good heavens, she couldn’t find time to write her “letter” unless the Courthouse playroom was available to babysit her son! Amazing how she manages to get TV time and video feeds to focus facial contact of her SON (the holiday donation video & the Courthouse playroom video), oops maybe he’s just a PROP in her quest for fame!

Kleat,

(((sigh))) All things considered, to include her jaunts through the woods, pre-Kronk, her presence in Blanchard Park, as well as her insatiable need to be so closely affiliated (isn’t this a characteristic of some murderers, Silver?) and her criminal/mental history, I’m surprised the defense hasn’t implicated her already, Kleat!

But then, could it be that they just aren’t finished molding her yet? Perhaps with a bit of help from the Anthony’s, who might look upon her as their daughter’s ticket out of jail, if only on bond. I mean, if enough evidence can be compiled against one such as Wray, wouldn’t the Judge have to reconsider and set a bond, releasing Casey until such time as the allegations/whatever charges against Wray were deemed erroneous?

Something just isn’t right here, and it seems to me that it’s the silence of the both the Anthony’s and the defense concerning Wray that so troubles me. Both seem to be egging her on, and neither are refuting her claims, and no matter how ludicrous her claims are, such as her having seen who, what, which strange man in the woods, very early on? Kronk or Casey? Could the matter of her being in the very woods where the body was found, when infact information at the time was so rather scarce, be used against her, and especially were she to embellish the story further? I fear she may embellish herself right into being accused! And even more than that, depending upon just how sick she is, and this is not so unheard of, she might even become convinced that she committed the crime — okay so it’s rather far fetched, but don’t you suppose that the Anthony’s would jump at the chance to suddenly realize say, Zanny the Nanny is none other than Joy Wray, who had such close family ties that Cindy and George are godparents to her children! Isn’t that what Joy has said? So there you go. She had an “in”. And poor Casey didn’t say anything because she soooo loves children that she didn’t want Joy’s children to know that their mother was a murderer.

Perhaps Joy is their “Ace in the hole”, that’s been so boasted of by Baez and Mul .. OOOO what was his name? Both having said that the truth would come out at trial. That everything would be made clear at trial. Perhaps they’re biding their time, giving her enough rope in saying nothing against anything she says, which only encourages her to say more and more and more. It wouldn’t surprise me, anyway.

But there I go again, giving in to all of my imaginings.

Have a super day tomorrow, Kleat, Silver, Joypath, Val. All. And Lil Lucy, I left you a comment on the tape topic. Sorry I was so late. My thoughts are with you.

Hugs

Joypath,

I’d like to point out that we’ve already heard the defense team intimate that Kronk’s finding of the body could be the tendency of a murderer to want to interject himself into the investigation of his own crime. So, yeah, Joy’s confessed obsession and frequent flyer miles to the exact location where Caylee’s remains were to be found shouldn’t be viewed any differently, right?

I suspect that Joy is using the ‘daycare’ system for free babysitting. We’ll see more letters filed from her. Probably Monday (pedicure and/or new hair color), Wednesday (grocery shopping) Friday (lunch and a movie).

Seriously, if she has an attorney as she claims, why would they not be counseling her against all of this nonsense?

Willow-

Casey was indicted on First Degree Murder, so no… no bond for her, no matter what this obviously unbalanced woman says–or is accused of by the defense.

I seriously doubt there will be any attempt to cast that defense “evidence of 3rd party guilt” suspicion upon Joy Wray. Or, let me put it this way: it would be an egregiously stupid and dangerous legal maneuver.

Thanks for thorough answer Silver.

(the) thorough answer, sorry

Silverspn, Thanks for taking the time to offer your expertise! It is greatly appreciated!

Even if we have one more coming on the family visits, the result is just as predictable. The important point on the motions is they were denied as expected. Once again, the Anthony’s are told they don’t rule the earth. I doubt they will catch on though.

btw – If you are interested in Jose’s jury questionnaire I found a motion and a jury questionnaire Jose submitted for the Check case. Check out # 38 for a chuckle. If they work for public safety in “Texas” appears to be important to him and Lyon’. Those cut and pastes can be tricky (wink). He submitted a motion for jury instructions also on the definition of premeditation for the murder trial. I expect he will take the check fraud up to the twelfth hour then we’ll see a nolo contendere move.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/15/motion.for.a.jury.questionnaire.pdf

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13097241

premeditation
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion%20for%20Jury%20Instructions%20Correctly%20Defining%20‘Premeditation’.pdf

Silverspnr, thanks. Of course, what is new about this defense making egregiously stupid and dangerous legal maneuvers!! Of course, the reputations of more than JB are at stake on this one, including the famous TM making his debut into criminal action territory.

There was one comment caught on the Bill Schaeffer blog a few days ago, that was promoting Casey’s innocence and lack of investigation by police, and a comment that took the finder of Caylee’s body into a new category of criminal past when the man has none. This could spin out of control for the man.

Silver, the defense wanted to have Mr. Kronk’s last ex-wife’s ‘testimony’ (under NO OATH) as taken by Mr. Mort Smith on video, to be protected for future needs. I think the term used in the hearing was ‘perpetuated’. Presumably to save this interview (one-sided and not under oath) to be used in trial should Ms. Ex-Kronk, die before trial of her cancer. Already, the defense (specifically L K-B) said this was essentially a ‘death bed statement’. Well, is is still alive, isn’t she!

Do you expect that the state has investigated this woman and done their own interview? The defense so far, has successfully delayed naming witnesses (a year since the last defense witness list). I do hope that the state has used its investigative subpoena powers, to thoroughly question this ‘death bed witness’.

I hope Joy doesn’t get any bright ideas about fame and harm her kids for attention. She’s crazy enough to do that. Those kids need to be taken from her.

Hey all I think i’m at the blink!!!!!!!!!!!Wow.

Silver, thank God! No bond, no matter what! I was concerned about that one. Thanks, a thousand times over, for being the voice of reason through all of his maddness. I don’t, particularly, understand why the defense went after Kronk rather than Wray. So, if you don’t mind my asking, what’s your take on this — Kronk v. Wray, especially if it could be determined, as Val said, that Wray had a history of stalking, as well as her known history of mental instability, and her husband’s bouts with anger against the children. And what ever came of that? (Forgive me for repeating myself, if in fact I am). A slap on the wrist and anger management? Sigh.

Again, thanks, Silver.

Willow

One question, what was the public’s information about the Zenaida ‘Nanny’ Gonzalez story on October 14, ’08? What about the ‘creation’ date?

How would anyone know of the Dora-the-Explorer connection to a baby not yet reported missing and the details of the nanny? Either it is the person who knew of the nanny story including details of age, astrological sign, etc, long before the family claims to have known these details that came out after July 15th, or the person(s) who set up the Myspace account, were somehow able to do so after the fact, or this site was set up by Casey Marie Anthony herself. Could Casey have convinced someone by some means, to set up this site before her summer plans were put into action? (could she have had help?)

Joy To The World! lol She is kin to the nutjob that is filing motions on behalf of Casey!

When the balloon with the phantom little boy landed, Joy Wray was on it Lol.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/14914896/detail.html

So she’s also been a crime victim not only criminal. Quite a renaissance woman!

Hello, Valhall! Catching up here . . .

I found the following when I tried to find the Kronk-Kerley marriage application on the Monroe County (Key West) clerk of court website:

Traffic/Criminal Case Detail Information

Defendant Name: KRONK, ROY
Date of Birth: 1/22/1962
Case Number: TRK927198
Uniform Case Number: 441992TR007198000AKW
Judge: Slaton, Tegan
Defense Attorney: None Listed
Scheduled Court Appearances: None Listed
Charges – Offense Date: 4/24/1992
Charges – Statute Code: 316.610
Charges – Statute Description: DRIVE VEH IN UNSAFE CONDITION
Charges – Date: 5/19/1999
Charges – Disposition: Unknown
Docket Information – Date: 5/19/1999
Docket Information – Text: D6 Released

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Defendant Name: KRONK, ROY
Date of Birth: 1/22/1962
Case Number: TRK927077
Uniform Case Number: 441992TR007077000AKW
Judge: Slaton, Tegan
Defense Attorney: None Listed
Scheduled Court Appearances: None Listed
Charges – Offense Date: 5/17/1992
Charges – Statute Code: 316.610
Charges – Statute Description: DRIVE VEH IN UNSAFE CONDITION
Charges – Date: 5/19/1999
Charges – Disposition: Unknown
Docket Information – Date: 5/19/1999
Docket Information – Text: D6 Released

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Defendant Name: KRONK, ROY
Date of Birth: 1/22/1962
Case Number: MMK9330212
Uniform Case Number: 441993MM030212000AKW
Judge: Miller, Wayne
Defense Attorney: None Listed
Scheduled Court Appearances: None Listed
Charges – Offense Date: 10/23/1992
Charges – Statute Code: 832.05
Charges – Statute Description: WORTHLESS CHECK MAKE UTTER ISSUE
Charges – Date: 4/26/2007
Charges – Disposition: Nolle Prossed
Docket Information:
5/3/2007 – Conversion: Bond Information – Bond Type: CONVERSION BOND
5/3/2007 – CAPIAS RECALLED – (CLOSES CASE) / ORIGINAL
4/26/2007 – NOLLE PROS
2/18/1993 – COPY OF CAPIAS
1/26/1993 – CAPIAS ISSUED
1/26/1993 – ORDER DIRECTING ISSUANCE OF CAPIAS
1/26/1993 – INFORMATION FILED

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Kronk did apparently pass a bad check in October 1992 (about three weeks after marrying Jill Kerley).

OMG! He’s got a rap sheet! He did it!

(Welcome back, Maura.)

She was a senior in high school in 1998 at Logan High in Ohio so probably into a lot of things juveniles get in trouble for, and I heard that many of the charges stemmed from one or two incidents. We saw how with the check writing Casey did using one checkbook over a few days she racked up 8 separate felonies, but that’s how the system works.

Can you also please post the case numbers & where these records came from — thank you! I looked in Hocking County Ohio since she was in her senior year in 1998 at Logan High School (listed as Joy Maggard Wray) and don’t see any offenses (unless I’m missing something), and the only thing I see in Florida (which is not on your list) is a charge that was dropped in 2008 for failing to stop when the police were following her flashing their lights and she apparently didn’t see them (http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6142219).

I see there are 3 other Joy R. Maggard’s that are a different age than her, and I am curious if these cases are the right Joy and where she was charged since I can’t find them in the places I know of that she lived in. I’d really like to read them for myself. She certainly could have lived somewhere else that I’m not aware of. Thanks again!