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	<title>Comments on: Will Duct Tape be Casey’s Sticking Point? – Loose Ends</title>
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		<title>By: clan t shirts</title>
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		<dc:creator>clan t shirts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i never commented before but i just had to now.    good site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i never commented before but i just had to now.    good site.</p>
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		<title>By: willow</title>
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		<dc:creator>willow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIL LUCY!!!!!!  I am so, so sorry to have missed your post, until this evening!  My heart is sooo  breaking for you!  Please, please, forgive me for being so long in responding, and thank you so very much for sharing.  It couldn&#039;t have been easy, and I no less than cherish you for doing so.  

I have a daughter who&#039;s also  a really good kid, but whose stubborn independance has often worried me to no end; like when she would take off for the mall, late at night, and alone.  I&#039;d worry.  Mentioned that her boyfriend was hammered.  My daughter has a friend who&#039;s boyfriend crushed her skull with a hammer before using the clawed end to rip half of her face off.  She survived, after having been in a coma for 3 months, but she will not ever be the same again.  Physically or mentally.

Ah, yes, I have worried about my daughter, and you, dearest Lucy, you lived my worst fears, and as I can only imagine, and there aren&#039;t words enough within me to express how marvelled I am by your strength and your courage.  Your anger toward the Anthony&#039;s is equally shared here, but rather than see her rot from the inside out, I would rather she died in the same manner in which she killed her little girl, if not worse.   Slap three layers of duct tape over her face then toss her into the trunk of a car in the middle of June, in the South Florida heat, and watch her eyes fill with the same horror she caused,  and just before she loses consciousness, remove the tape, let her gasp and writhe, and then reapply it, and do this over and over again, until she&#039;s begging for mercy, and  show her none.    Regardless, may she suffer greatly.  I am with you there.  

Willow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIL LUCY!!!!!!  I am so, so sorry to have missed your post, until this evening!  My heart is sooo  breaking for you!  Please, please, forgive me for being so long in responding, and thank you so very much for sharing.  It couldn&#8217;t have been easy, and I no less than cherish you for doing so.  </p>
<p>I have a daughter who&#8217;s also  a really good kid, but whose stubborn independance has often worried me to no end; like when she would take off for the mall, late at night, and alone.  I&#8217;d worry.  Mentioned that her boyfriend was hammered.  My daughter has a friend who&#8217;s boyfriend crushed her skull with a hammer before using the clawed end to rip half of her face off.  She survived, after having been in a coma for 3 months, but she will not ever be the same again.  Physically or mentally.</p>
<p>Ah, yes, I have worried about my daughter, and you, dearest Lucy, you lived my worst fears, and as I can only imagine, and there aren&#8217;t words enough within me to express how marvelled I am by your strength and your courage.  Your anger toward the Anthony&#8217;s is equally shared here, but rather than see her rot from the inside out, I would rather she died in the same manner in which she killed her little girl, if not worse.   Slap three layers of duct tape over her face then toss her into the trunk of a car in the middle of June, in the South Florida heat, and watch her eyes fill with the same horror she caused,  and just before she loses consciousness, remove the tape, let her gasp and writhe, and then reapply it, and do this over and over again, until she&#8217;s begging for mercy, and  show her none.    Regardless, may she suffer greatly.  I am with you there.  </p>
<p>Willow</p>
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		<title>By: lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More and more my mind pictures Caylee bound with duct tape and placed in the pool.</description>
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		<title>By: William Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://chestofbooks.com/health/materia-medica-drugs/Pharmacology-Therapeutics-Prescription-Writing/Chloroform.html

The thing about this article that standsout for me, and perhaps for Casey, is this:

Microorganisms

Chloroform is antiseptic, and even in such a dilute solution as &quot;chloroform water&quot; (1/2 per cent. in strength) will retard putrefaction and fermentation, as in urine.

It strikes me that Casey could have seen this and decided that she had a dead body on her hands which needed to be stopped from putrefaction for as long as possible while she decided what to do with her daughter permanently. That would have been one way of trying to hold off decomposition for awhile while driving around with her daughter in her trunk.

Of course, we still can&#039;t know how Caylee actually died. It seems possible to me that she would have thought of this application for chloroform after Caylee was dead though....</description>
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<p>The thing about this article that standsout for me, and perhaps for Casey, is this:</p>
<p>Microorganisms</p>
<p>Chloroform is antiseptic, and even in such a dilute solution as &#8220;chloroform water&#8221; (1/2 per cent. in strength) will retard putrefaction and fermentation, as in urine.</p>
<p>It strikes me that Casey could have seen this and decided that she had a dead body on her hands which needed to be stopped from putrefaction for as long as possible while she decided what to do with her daughter permanently. That would have been one way of trying to hold off decomposition for awhile while driving around with her daughter in her trunk.</p>
<p>Of course, we still can&#8217;t know how Caylee actually died. It seems possible to me that she would have thought of this application for chloroform after Caylee was dead though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: coffeebreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffeebreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val, your work is admirable! 
I am a first time poster, mostly just read.  I am not an expert on this case or up on all facts, but your site is very interesting and helpful.  I appreciate fact based reading vs emotional repetitive dialog and commend you on the &#039;fact&#039; focus you present. 

The reason I decided to come out of silence is to offer a simple thought about the duct tape.  You presented the terms Casey had searched for, one being &quot;cholorformhabit&quot;.  I did a search on that and found an interesting link. 
http://chestofbooks.com/health/materia-medica-drugs/Pharmacology-Therapeutics-Prescription-Writing/Chloroform.html

They make a statement &quot;Elimination is chiefly by the lungs and is rapid&quot;. 

This made me wonder if Casey could have found this too and the tape was placed to insure that chloroform wasn&#039;t &#039;breathed&#039; out for elimination if she indeed used chloroform.  No way to know for sure how she died or how Casey thinks but this popped out at me. 

Also worth asking -  If Casey was using tape to constrain the child,  there is no evidence of taping her legs.  A 3 yr old if not drugged, would kick! Where is that tape if we go with the constrained theory?  Something just doesn&#039;t fit the State&#039;s theory comfortably.  If she was drugged, there was no need to tape her hands. If she wasn&#039;t drugged, she could kick but again, there is no evidence her legs were bound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val, your work is admirable!<br />
I am a first time poster, mostly just read.  I am not an expert on this case or up on all facts, but your site is very interesting and helpful.  I appreciate fact based reading vs emotional repetitive dialog and commend you on the &#8216;fact&#8217; focus you present. </p>
<p>The reason I decided to come out of silence is to offer a simple thought about the duct tape.  You presented the terms Casey had searched for, one being &#8220;cholorformhabit&#8221;.  I did a search on that and found an interesting link.<br />
<a href="http://chestofbooks.com/health/materia-medica-drugs/Pharmacology-Therapeutics-Prescription-Writing/Chloroform.html" rel="nofollow">http://chestofbooks.com/health/materia-medica-drugs/Pharmacology-Therapeutics-Prescription-Writing/Chloroform.html</a></p>
<p>They make a statement &#8220;Elimination is chiefly by the lungs and is rapid&#8221;. </p>
<p>This made me wonder if Casey could have found this too and the tape was placed to insure that chloroform wasn&#8217;t &#8216;breathed&#8217; out for elimination if she indeed used chloroform.  No way to know for sure how she died or how Casey thinks but this popped out at me. </p>
<p>Also worth asking &#8211;  If Casey was using tape to constrain the child,  there is no evidence of taping her legs.  A 3 yr old if not drugged, would kick! Where is that tape if we go with the constrained theory?  Something just doesn&#8217;t fit the State&#8217;s theory comfortably.  If she was drugged, there was no need to tape her hands. If she wasn&#8217;t drugged, she could kick but again, there is no evidence her legs were bound.</p>
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		<title>By: William Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chloroform or trichloromethane (CHCl sub 3) is easily produced from tap water in the Orlando area, due to the chemical polutants in the water. All that is necessary is a small catalyst and BANG you have quite a bit of chloroform.

http://www.ewg.org/tap-water/whatsinyourwater/FL/Orlando-Utilities-Commission/3480962/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chloroform or trichloromethane (CHCl sub 3) is easily produced from tap water in the Orlando area, due to the chemical polutants in the water. All that is necessary is a small catalyst and BANG you have quite a bit of chloroform.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ewg.org/tap-water/whatsinyourwater/FL/Orlando-Utilities-Commission/3480962/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ewg.org/tap-water/whatsinyourwater/FL/Orlando-Utilities-Commission/3480962/</a></p>
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		<title>By: William Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I know that this is not the best place to discuss the chloroform, but I was responding to the comment from Liza and Val&#039;s response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I know that this is not the best place to discuss the chloroform, but I was responding to the comment from Liza and Val&#8217;s response.</p>
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		<title>By: William Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With respect, the chlorine could have come from tap water from hosing out the trunk. Chloroform is a natural byproduct which may be produced in chlorine chemistry from reactions with other chemicals found in sweat, urine, etc. So there is a chance for chloroform to form any time that tap water is used to clean up any mess. That being true, the chloroform may or may not be significant in the trunk and may or may not be an indicator of chloroform having been used on Caylee. The primary reason for directing any attention to chloroform at all being that it was part of a search on the computer, but I have looked up thousands of things on my computer which I will never have reason to use or make or do. From that, I generalize that Casey could also have looked up a large amount of things which have nothing to do with the actual case.

This is even more likely when taken with the fact that neck breaking was also searched on, but there is no evidence of damage to a vertebra which would indicate that the neck of Caylee was broken. I think that chloroform may not have played a roll in this case at all or, conversely, it could have played a significant roll. Only the murderer knows for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect, the chlorine could have come from tap water from hosing out the trunk. Chloroform is a natural byproduct which may be produced in chlorine chemistry from reactions with other chemicals found in sweat, urine, etc. So there is a chance for chloroform to form any time that tap water is used to clean up any mess. That being true, the chloroform may or may not be significant in the trunk and may or may not be an indicator of chloroform having been used on Caylee. The primary reason for directing any attention to chloroform at all being that it was part of a search on the computer, but I have looked up thousands of things on my computer which I will never have reason to use or make or do. From that, I generalize that Casey could also have looked up a large amount of things which have nothing to do with the actual case.</p>
<p>This is even more likely when taken with the fact that neck breaking was also searched on, but there is no evidence of damage to a vertebra which would indicate that the neck of Caylee was broken. I think that chloroform may not have played a roll in this case at all or, conversely, it could have played a significant roll. Only the murderer knows for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the last few posts, something keeps nagging at me.  Could it be possible that Caylee was in the trunk aka with the nanny and the fumes from the vent hole killed her? It wouldn&#039;t take much if the duct tape was obstructing her breathing also.  George was so bent out of shape about the lack of tape on the can so it was probably true that it didn&#039;t have any on it.  I guess we will never know exactly what happened unless KC spills her guts.
Any update on the D Casey situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the last few posts, something keeps nagging at me.  Could it be possible that Caylee was in the trunk aka with the nanny and the fumes from the vent hole killed her? It wouldn&#8217;t take much if the duct tape was obstructing her breathing also.  George was so bent out of shape about the lack of tape on the can so it was probably true that it didn&#8217;t have any on it.  I guess we will never know exactly what happened unless KC spills her guts.<br />
Any update on the D Casey situation?</p>
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		<title>By: Valhall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to look, William.  You may yet run across what you were recalling, so if you do, PLEASE SHARE!  Because I am interested if there is something on that.

Yeah, I definitely think there are teeth marks on the tape.  Maybe earmark can tell us more.  His original post was very informative.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, William, to you and yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to look, William.  You may yet run across what you were recalling, so if you do, PLEASE SHARE!  Because I am interested if there is something on that.</p>
<p>Yeah, I definitely think there are teeth marks on the tape.  Maybe earmark can tell us more.  His original post was very informative.</p>
<p>MERRY CHRISTMAS, William, to you and yours.</p>
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